Oblivion crashes when it begins to load

[Left4Candy]

Hey.
I modded my Oblivion and have used compatibility patches for the mods that needed it. I have run TESEdit and made a merged patch.
I have also used Wrye to make a Bashed Patch (I tried the merged patch at a later date to see if it would work. It didn't.).
OBSE installed, Unofficial Oblivion Patch etc.
No conflicts, no errors whatsoever. Still it crashes. So it shouldn't really be a crash? The crash means that it's a fatal error, which there are none according to LodGen, TESEdit, Boss or Wrye.

What should I do?

 

Oblivion.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Trade and Commerce.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - Oblivion XP Patch.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Races.esp

All Natural.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Living Economy.esp

OOO-Respawn_Month.esp INACTIVE

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp INACTIVE

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Knights.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

OblivionReloaded.esp

OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp

Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp

ICEXPAND.esp

OldCrowInn.esp

Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

OOO-Snowdale patch.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp INACTIVE

Kvatch Rebuilt Fixes.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Snowdale.esp

Better Cities Bravil - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp

Better Cities IC Waterfront - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp

KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp

[Striker879]

What do you use to sort your load order (i.e. LOOT or BOSS)?

[forli]

@Striker879: that seems a BOSS order. LOOT order is very chaotic, especially with DLC, UL and BC esps.

 

A crash on load usually means either a missing master or a problem in the "Oblivion/Data/Menus" folder. Try to rename the Menus folder to Menus2 (so the game won't recognize and won't read it) and see if the problem goes away.

Edited March 27, 2016 by forli

[olha2]

They say this mod causes crahses: P1DkeyChain.esp, however it can not cause the crash are currently experiencing.

Also like @forli said don't use LOOT, use BOSS.

Edited March 27, 2016 by olha2

[Left4Candy]

They say this mod causes crahses: P1DkeyChain.esp, however it can not cause the crash are currently experiencing.

Also like @forli said don't use LOOT, use BOSS.

I already use BOSS. But I will try and turn off keyChain! Thanks all :smile:

 

Edit: Sadly didn't work when I turned it off :/

Edited March 27, 2016 by Left4Candy

[forli]

Normally, esp/esm don't cause crash on startup, unless they miss their masters or they are corrupted (if CS can't load them, they are corrupted).

OBSE plugins (.dll files) may cause a CTD on startup, as well as bad XML files.

Edited March 27, 2016 by forli

[Left4Candy]

Normally, esp/esm don't cause crash on startup, unless they miss their masters or they are corrupted (if CS can't load them, they are corrupted).

OBSE plugins (.dll files) may cause a CTD on startup, as well as bad XML files.

So what do you suggest me to do? Reinstall OBSE completely?

[forli]

Nope, never said OBSE was the cause. I said OBSE plugins (the dll in "Data/OBSE/Plugins") or the XML files.

Since, in the past, tons of "CTD on startup" were caused by the XML files, there's a reasonably high chance this is another XML problem.

As I already suggested in the previous post, go to Oblivion/Data and try to rename the Menus folder to Menus2 (or similar, so Oblivion won't load it and use the vanilla XML instead) and test.

[Left4Candy]

Nope, never said OBSE was the cause. I said OBSE plugins (the dll in "Data/OBSE/Plugins") or the XML files.

Since, in the past, tons of "CTD on startup" were caused by the XML files, there's a reasonably high chance this is another XML problem.

As I already suggested in the previous post, go to Oblivion/Data and try to rename the Menus folder to Menus2 (or similar, so Oblivion won't load it and use the vanilla XML instead) and test.

Holy s*** that about did it! Sadly though, I have the old menus... Should I just reinstall those menu mods that I had?

 

Edit: Reinstalled, but font size is way too big... Can I just change the numbers? Example: DarN_Morris_Roman_28 -> DarN_Morris_Roman_18

Edited March 28, 2016 by Left4Candy

[forli]

Let's try to understand the cause first, or the problem will reappear.

Did you installed HUD Status Bars recently? For this mod, not following the correct installation procedure may lead to CTD.

Edited March 28, 2016 by forli