Pikeman85 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 A large portion of the "Jewish" population is originally Turkish, from when a fairly big Turkish leader (can't remember the name) converted. As for them once owning the land? Ha. Hahahaha. Supposedly (at least according to the Law, Prophets, and Writings) they took it by conquest, and then lost it. I'd say it's pretty fair to say that after 2000 years, a group that identifies itself with an ancient group (because after 2000 years, there are GREAT changes, and by that time ownership really doesn't matter.) doesn't deserve the land. I agree there was a great deal of anti-semitism at times, however saying that people all think of them as one entity is a tad much. It's not like there is much persecution of them in western nations now. Might as well argue to give a country to atheists. I doubt that would fly in the least. In my opinion they do not deserve the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrid Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Wait! that sa excellent idea, I think Athiest should have thier own country, that's it. I claim Antartica for the Athiest! :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Sibling Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 I am pro Israel. They didn't attack every one the day they moved in, they came and bled for their land, maybe it wasn't theirs for a long long time, but neither was America you don't see us handing it back to the Native Americans? In America a diffrent thing happens when a new group moves in, we merge. It seems to me in the middle east the main effect is to murder. I wont say either side is right or wrong. Is Israel crazy? If they where anything but they wouldn't be here today, they where attacked by just about every other middle eastern nation and they handed them their ass. They are crazy because they feel that funny need to survive.IMHO: Israel is just playing mini-imperialism.The Arab nations saw the arrival of the a Western jumpboard into their region, as is their wont. Personally I find Israel has ironically became the very 3rd-reich it espaced from.Funny, how the oppressed eventually ape the oppressor. Palestinians?They should know when they are backing a loser. I see them all as madmen, but Israel is the protagonist of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrid Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Wait what does any of this have to do with Lousy anti-free-thought Moderators? Wait we arn't supposed to post about that anymore, I'm confused :ohmy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Sibling Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Sorry if I went off topic. But I see no problems with the mod-ship of this forum.I can say they are pretty lax compared to some sites. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveme4whoiam Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 In that case, maybe this a new thread should be started on this topic, if no-one else has a problem with the mods and admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesaynothin Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 I havent read the debate, just the first post on the second page. Yes, I am lazy. All I am going to say until I know what the debate is about is saying what I know abut the Isreali-Palestinian land dispute. And dont call me anti-semetic here, because I am a Jew. In biblical times, God told Moses to lead his people (the Jews) to the promise land. The Jews found the Promised land, and lived there for quite a while. They were a bit surprised to find out that the Palestinians were also living in the promised land. Over time Palistinain-Israeli relations broke down, andthe Israelites took Palestine for themselves. They lived there for X-amount of years, and slowly migrated around the world. The Palestinian and other Arab nations moved back to the 'promised land'. After WWII, the Jewish population fled back to the so called 'promised land', much to the dismay of the Arab people living there. The Jews bought much of the land, and formed it into the nation of Israel. That is how the current conflict broke out, and the rest we should all know. I have absolutely no idea if this has anything to do with the main debate, but It took a long time to type down so at least read it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Sibling Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Nice threadjack. More off topic a poster could not be... :ohmy: Could you save the religious/political propaganda for whatever thread it belongs in, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 At the risk of being accused of being a lousy anti free thought moderator as well as mean and all the other things we get called, this thread is in such a muddle even I can't work out what it is meant to be about. I'm locking it. Can any debate on the Israeli 'right' to Palastine or whatever we think this is about be started as a new thread if it must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.