Saves Crashing on Load

[Aryeonos]

I'm not sure exactly why this is happening, I think it has something to do with Deleted Ref.s and Undeleted Ref.s

 

I've recently disabled Tales of Elsweyr because I thought it was causing problems, and I didn't like it.

 

Here is my load order, if there are more logs or crashdumps I can recover just let me know and I'll pull them up. Provided I know where to find them.

 

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  SoVvM.esm
02  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
03  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]
04  CM Partners.esm
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
06  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
++  Valuable Clutter.esp
08  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
09  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
0A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0B  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
0C  AliveWaters.esp
0D  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
0E  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
0F  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
10  MorrowindBooks.esp
11  Morrowind Ingredients.esp  [Version 1.5]
12  personality_idles4.esp
13  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
14  MW_booze.esp
15  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]
16  Crowded Cities 15.esp
17  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3]
18  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]
19  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1A  DLCOrrery.esp
1B  DLCVileLair.esp
1C  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
1D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
1F  kikaiDSSeductiveArmor.esp
++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
20  Slof and Tanya's Saint Armor.esp  [Version 1.1]
21  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
22  RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp
23  RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp
24  RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp
25  RealSwords - Goblin.esp
26  RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp
27  RealSwords - Nord LO-NPC SI.esp
28  RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp
29  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
2A  Roberts Armamentium female.esp
2B  Slof's Horses Base.esp
2C  DLCThievesDen.esp
2D  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
2E  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]
2F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]
30  CurseOfHircine.esp
31  CoH Spawn Rates Increased.esp
32  AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
33  AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
34  GDS.esp
35  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 1.5BCE]
36  ICEXPANDWaterfront.esp
37  MushroomManor.esp
38  Scribe Supplies.esp
39  Sunburn.esp
3A  Valenwood Improved.esp  [Version 1.02.0]
3B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
3C  DLCFrostcrag.esp
3D  Knights.esp
3E  Tamriel.esp
3F  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
40  ElsweyrAnequina - SevereDesert.esp
41  ElsweyrAnequina - IncreasedCreature.esp
++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.2]
42  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp
43  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
44  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
45  xulTheHeath.esp
46  XulEntiusGorge.esp
47  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
48  Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
49  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
4A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4B  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
4C  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
4D  Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp
4E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
4F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
50  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
51  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
52  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
53  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
54  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
55  xulPantherRiver.esp
56  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
57  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
58  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
59  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]
5A  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
5B  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
5C  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5D  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
5E  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
60  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]
61  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
62  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
63  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
64  DS Storage Sacks.esp  [Version 1.3]
65  Finite Ammo.esp
66  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
67  Secure Guild Chest.esp
68  undercover.esp  [Version 2.0]
69  Werewolf-Legends.esp
6A  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
6B  RealHungerv1.4_NO_MMM.esp
6C  RealisticForceMedium.esp
6D  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.2]
6E  TFE.esp
6F  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
70  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
71  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
72  DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp
73  RshAlchemy.esp
74  EnchantmentRestore.esp
++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
75  Deadlier Traps.esp
76  MigLockpicking.esp  [Version 1.0]
77  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
78  Kayo.esp
79  Double-tap dodge.esp
7A  CM Partners.esp
7B  Soqui Race.esp
7C  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
7D  CM Partners NPC NE.esp
7E  CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
7F  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
80  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
81  DAWerewolf.esp
82  Colovian Fur Helm.esp
++  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp
83  WNewShockFunnelEffects20.esp  [Version 2.0]
84  CM Partners Custom.esp
85  CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp
86  CoH No Female Model.esp
87  werewolf faction.esp
**  Jjiinx_MorrowindStyleArgonians.esp
88  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
89  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
8A  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
8B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
8C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
8D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.9.1]
8E  Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
8F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
90  Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp
91  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
92  TrainingDumDums.esp

 

Edited June 20, 2011 by Aryeonos

[BrokenMessiah]

Does enabling it fix it?

[Aryeonos]

Does enabling it fix it?

 

Nope.

 

Also I recently installed the Real Swords Mods and the Unique Landscapes, Both of them have missing meshes, but I don't know if there are other obvious missing files that could bring about these crash on loads. And the quicksaves only crash on load after I've closed oblivion and opened it up again.

 

 

I've got Wryebash, OBMM, TES4Edit, I can pull up logs, I just don't really know hot to use all of them.

Edited June 20, 2011 by Aryeonos

[MotoSxorpio]

Have you tried FastExit or FastExit2? NOthing in your load order jumps at me, and I use a mod for autosaving.

[BlackBaron2]

You might be missing your character's race, or meshes and textures that go with it.

[Aryeonos]

You might be missing your character's race, or meshes and textures that go with it.

 

It's only happening on quickloads after I open oblivion. Like if I make a quicksave, then play for five minutes and hit F9 I'll go back to my quicksave no problem. But if I close oblivion or it crashes as is usually the case the quickload crashes.

 

Is there some sort of error report I could pull up and look at for more information?

 

I don't know if this is important, but if I load a quickload after starting oblivion the game can run for up to five seconds. But before it crashes, my character does this weird fidget, like his skeleton was changed or like I queued something from the quick keys that I was already wearing, my character just resets all quick like and then the game crashes.

Edited June 21, 2011 by Aryeonos

[Aryeonos]

Is there a log I can look at or something I can pull up to find out what might be causing this?