For the life of me, I can't get the damn game to not CTD after character creation.

[DannyAcme]

This is seriously driving me friggin' nuts. I have a modest number of mods installed, nowhere near 255, I have meticulously cleaned them all, optimized the load order with loot and I still get a CTD almost immediately after my character's done being made. I turn to you guys now, cause I have no clue what else I could be doing wrong.

First of all, my computer's info:
-Windows 10 64x

-AMD FX-8120 3.1Ghz 4 Core
-8GB DDR3 RAM

-AMD Radeon HD 7900

(Yes, it's old, but I don't have a bazillion dollars to upgrade yet).

My load order:

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

Wyrmstooth.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=0

SkyMoMod.esm=1

Campfire.esm=1

CompanionArissa.esm=1

moonpath.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

TakeNotes.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

Kickass Esbern.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

RealisticRoomRental.esp=1

Rigmor.esp=1

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1

SkyRe_Main.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1

humans drop human parts.esp=1

Rebirth Monster.esp=1

3DNPC.esp=1

Folkstead.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Nyhus.esp=1

Jehanna.esp=1

RealShelter.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

Helgen Reborn.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1

SoS - The Wilds.esp=1

SoS - Civilization.esp=1

OBIS.esp=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

w2salem.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1

Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp=0

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Hunting in Skyrim.esp=1

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1

Inigo.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

RSPatch.esp=1

OBISDB.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1

TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp=1

QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp=1

moonpath_questdata.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1

Immersive Patrols II.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

VL No AoE Drain.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

OBIS ApachiiSkyHair.esp=0

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp=1

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

BabettesFeastBalanced.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Essential Blades.esp=1

arnima.esp=1

HothFollower.esp=1

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1

Frostfall.esp=1

Moonpath-RRR Patch.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

SkyRe_Races.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp=1

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1

Darkend.esp=1

More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp=1

Vampirelordroyal.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1

Grandmaster Delphine.esp=1

Recorder Follower Base.esp=1

Hermit.esp=1

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

Poet.esp=1

KhajiitChildren.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1

KDC - kevinsterable - Deadly Stronger Poisons.esp=1

RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp=1

HarvestOverhaul.esp=1

HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp=1

OMageCommonRobesV2.esp=1

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Sleeved Guards.esp=1

ESFCompanions.esp=1

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1

LeftHandRings.esp=1

LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1

HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

ReProccer.esp=1

As you can see, ApachiiSkyHair and all its dependent mods are disabled, cause I read that it was better to turn it on after being done with the prologue than to have it on at the beginning. Other than that, I have no clue what the hell I'm doing wrong.

 

[iXenite]

Are you using the Vanilla start? I know you have Alternate Start loaded, but some people still load the Vanilla intro through Alternate Start. I'm asking because Helgen Reborn does not mix well with the Vanilla intro.

 

Also, you made sure not to clean mods that LOOT instructed you to "keep dirty" right? Some mods need "dirty" edits to run. I'm not sure if you have any of those mods though, I can't remember which those are. Maybe Continent Horse or Immersive Patrols. Can't really remember.

[DannyAcme]

Are you using the Vanilla start? I know you have Alternate Start loaded, but some people still load the Vanilla intro through Alternate Start. I'm asking because Helgen Reborn does not mix well with the Vanilla intro.

 

Also, you made sure not to clean mods that LOOT instructed you to "keep dirty" right? Some mods need "dirty" edits to run. I'm not sure if you have any of those mods though, I can't remember which those are. Maybe Continent Horse or Immersive Patrols. Can't really remember.

I made sure I only cleaned those files that needed it, yes. The ones that had messages that they should not be cleaned I left alone, and I didn't clean Skyrim.esm, which I know to be left alone as well. As for the intro, I don't even get that far. I get done with character creation and a few seconds after I get the CTD. I have Alternate Start, and I was planning on doing it somewhere else other than Vanilla, but like I said, I don't even get that far. Maybe I should try Vanilla character creation instead of RaceMenu?

[DannyAcme]

UPDATE: I think I'm narrowing down what might be the issue. The game keeps CTD'ing when I go into the Settings menu to change my camera settings and stuff. Could it be one of the mods that modifies the UI is not playing nice?

[iXenite]

I'm not sure if it would be a UI mod. Maybe try creating a character without opening the menus at all. Just quickly pick a preset and see if you can get into the game.

 

P.S. You can clean all of the main plugins for Skyrim.

 

Skyrim Mod Tool TES5EDIT : Cleaning your master files (REVISED):

 

P.P.S. Are you sure the USKP patch you have for RND is compatible with USLEP (the newest (Legendary) version of the USKP)?

Edited April 8, 2016 by DaddyDirection

[DannyAcme]

I literally just tried that and it still crashed. It takes a little longer to crash, but by a few seconds. If I got to menus, it crashes faster. Now I'm seriously at a loss :/ Should I try verifying the game files with Steam?

[iXenite]

That's probably a good idea. That has fixed problems for me in the past.

[DannyAcme]

That's probably a good idea. That has fixed problems for me in the past.

Just tried validating the files, still no dice. And I've followed a bazillion tutorials online to optimize my ENB and INI files. I give up -_-

[iXenite]

It might be time to just start rebuilding your load order. Consider taking a look at he S.T.E.P. Wiki, it's an amazing resource for setting up a stable game.

 

S.T.E.P. Project Wiki:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Main_Page

 

Make Skyrim Vanilla Again:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again

 

Configure Settings:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_Configuration_Settings

 

Mod Organizer (If you're not already using this, I recommend giving it a look):

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_Configuration_Settings

[DannyAcme]

Hey, guys, just wanted to give you the heads up, I finally solved the CTD issue :) Turns out, I DID have my load order pretty much perfect. The actual problem is a minor mod conflict Rigmor of Bruma has with Immersive Armors. If Immersive Armors tries to do its initial configuration while Rigmor of Bruma is active, it causes the game to CTD. You just need to disable Rigmor.esp, let Immersive Armors do its thing until it's fully configured, save the game, reactivate Rigmor.esp and reload the save. Rigmor is loaded with no issues and the game runs perfectly.