Several issues regarding SK and Settlement Object Expansion Pack

[ayjayn]

so basically I've got both DLC, and I have at the moment 47 mods installed(mostly settlement related). the other day I updated Settlement Objects Expansion pack which adds a lot of items, however, it led to my first problem

 

they weren't allowed to be built, I understand there might not be a mini model of them when scrolling ( several other mods have that same thing) but they don't even show in the world as green or red, I can't even build them.

 

I thought this might relate to something like Settlement Keywords, which I decided to download.

 

that caused my game to crash upon trying to load my game save, I've used LOOT to organise my mods and I've downloaded a couple of patches for it, yet it keeps crashing, I even deleted several mods to slim it down.

 

below is my current mod order list. would someone be able to help at all with it ? the main goal is to get that Settlement objects expansion pack items working with or without SK.

 

Fallout4.esm

DLCRobot.esm

DLCworkshop01.esm

Homemaker.esm

SettlementKeywords.esm

ArmorKeywords.esm

Simple Intersection.esp

extendedLightsWS.esp

EnhancedGrass_Low.esp

EnhancedGrass_Med.esp

Fusebox Generator.esp

BetterItemSorting.esp

keyNuker_cards_en.esp

keyNuker_keys_en.esp

Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

Craftable Armor Size.esp

Rangergearnew.esp

WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp

Northland Diggers.esp

strong_PA.esp

tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp

strong_PA - tAE - AWKCR.esp

Crafting Workbench.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp

Homemaker - SK Integration Patch.esp

PatchyMcPatcherson.esp

BetterStores.esp

BS-ExtraCustomProps.esp

CutWeaponModsRestored.esp

DarkerNights.esp

TrueStormsFO4.esp

TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp

BetterNightVision.esp

DarkerNightsDetection.esp

DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp

BetterJunkFences.esp

Simple Intersection - Homemaker 1.22.esp

Extended weapon mods.esp

EnhancedGrass_High.esp

SettleObjExpandPack.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp

SettleObjExpandPack-HomemakerKeyPatch.esp

Jzk_WW_Patch.esp

wwip + sk patch.esp

thanks in advance

[Faylar001]

You have SK and the SettleObjExpandPack-HomemakerKeyPatch. You will need to get rid of the latter.
Also, Simple intersection causes many conflicts, considering it's patch is for HMM 1.22 and we are on HMM 1.33/34 that is also an issue.
You also have three enhanced grass esp Low, medium, and high. I beleive you should only have 1 or the other.

I would reccomend putting AWKCR and SK just below the main files, and then go with settlement mods, their patches, game changes, Armour mods, weapon mods,a nd lastly any scrap mods.
Cut out two grass mods you are not using
Remove the SettleObjExpandPack-HomemakerKeyPatch.esp
and Also update or remove Simple intersection in favor or Place anywhere instead.

I hope that helps.

[Faylar001]

Actually, after looking again... YOu don't have Alternate settlements or OCDdecorator, and do not really need SK.
I would disable SK, and patchymacpatcherson.esp and leave in the HMM SEO patch instead. If you have no mods dependent upon SK, and only have a relative few that alter menus like you do. You do not currently need SK.

If you decide to install more mods, then I would recommend going for the new Settlement Keywords Expanded, as Styuk is not really maintaining SK and it's been more or less taken over. That also means that until Alternate Settlements and OCD decorator get updated, you may not be able to fully use those mods.

Just an fyi, there is no more keywords limit (at least none that we need to worry about) anymore, so a framework mod now is just to prevent bloat and conflicts, but not to prevent limits.




Also, to your issue of items not appearing. That is one of two things.
1) you do not have the perk or materials required
2) the meshes didn't load

You can find the meshes inside of the .zip file in the nexus mods folder for Fallout 4. Then manually place thos files into their respective folders in Fallout4/data
First, however, open up the console with the tilde (~) key and type tgm (the god mode) This will allow you to free build anything without the necessary components and skills. If that still doesn't work, then try the meshes option like I sais.
Most likely its a skill and materials issue in game, however, and not anything else.

Edited April 23, 2016 by Faylar001

[ayjayn]

thanks for the reply,

 

i cleared out the Sk mod and did away with a fair few others aswell.

 

and i took your advice to manually place the meshes /textures etc in the dat afile, turns out homemaker and SOE decided not to install any info what so ever.

 

 

only problem is now that if i go to scrap an item it crashes my game, regardless of the item and also the act of trying to build something crashes it too.

 

below is the updated mod list for reference ( note Simple intersection isnt on)

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm

DLCRobot.esm

DLCworkshop01.esm

Homemaker.esm

*Simple Intersection - Homemaker 1.22.esp

BetterItemSorting.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

BetterStores.esp

BS-ExtraCustomProps.esp

SettleObjExpandPack.esp

SettleObjExpandPack-HM-patch.esp

BS-HomemakerPatch.esp

CutWeaponModsRestored.esp

DarkerNights.esp

DarkerNightsDetection.esp

Extended weapon mods.esp

Fusebox Generator.esp

extendedLightsWS.esp

keyNuker_cards_en.esp

keyNuker_keys_en.esp

EnhancedGrass_High.esp

Rangergearnew.esp

Northland Diggers.esp

BetterJunkFences.esp

WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp

TrueStormsFO4.esp

DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp

TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp

SettleObjExpandPack-HomemakerKeyPatch.esp

Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp

Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp

[Faylar001]

That looks good.
I am not sure how to combat the crash when scrapping thing. i use Scrap Everything, Scrap It all Away, and Scrappable Commonwealth together and they work well (At the very bottom of the load list though). There is also Spring Cleaning which some people prefer.
I have an old save that had that Scrap and crash issue. I managed to mostly fix it (except one wall), but I am not sure how. I ended up using the console select object with mouse and type "disable" without selecting anything else, you can bring it back with "enable" (Which is handy for building). I am not entirely sure either about this, but I think that Disabling does not remove it, it just hides it, so it will remain and contribute to your settlement size and eventually cause FPS loss, so only sue it for problematic pieces.

You can try fast travel away and back, see if that helps too. You can also try a new game and see if the issue is a save game corruption or a problem with your install.
Beyond that, I hope someone else has an idea for you and can weigh in.

[ayjayn]

thanks again for the reply, ill give your ideas a spin, only ball ache is the new save, id do it if it didnt take so long to reach the settlement building section

[Faylar001]

No prob :)
You can walk straight to the workbench in Sanctuary hills without doing the Preston Quest.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Faylar001

[ayjayn]

even better, thanks for that info ill give it a try and update on whats what