What could be the problem (graphics + crashing)

Spawn2007 · July 7, 2011

Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this, and to offer your help and advice.

I'll start by saying im not the greatest at understanding how things work, but i have been on with this for close to 3 weeks now, and have tried my best to understand and follow all the instructions that came with the mods i have installed, and trying to fix any errors/problems. Unfortunatly im at a loss as to what the problems are caused by, so i am seeking your help.

My latest attempt to get oblivion up and running involved a total re-install of the game 4 times, before i found out that wyre bash v293 doesn not work with windows 7 x64, no problem ive fixed that with v291. Also i installed to C:/Bethesda Softworks/Oblivion and Turned UAC off.

I was looking to play this with a few select mods and FCOM, which i have followed their install guide at their site to the best of my abilities, also i used THIS guide for the bash patch settings (although this did confuse me as there were a lot of tags already, should i have removed them?).

As for my problems here we go... shortly after starting to play, i will get really bad stuttering, it wont last for long, but somtimes i have to quit as it just wont stop. I have noticed that if i go into console and use the command to show my fps (tdt), theres a line of text that reads: Total BSTask Count:0, when i get stuttering i notice this number go as high as 2,000 and somtimes over that, its definatly when this reaches a high number (say over 500) that i experiance the stuttering. Also my FPS is around 30 outside which is fine for me, obviously when i dont get the added stuttering.

Next up, somtimes the texture on the floor will look like its see through, its like a big square patch of missing textures, yet everything (be it trees or rocks) are still there. If i try to walk on it, my character will fall through, strangely i may or may not get the stuttering before/when this happens, so i dont think thats the cause.

Also textures infront of me, but say at the end of where the tree/grass/actor fade is (im not sure how far away it is but i hope you get the idea), may dissapear or i may only be able to see trees/rocks (the ground/sea will be missing and it looks like clear blue sky). Other times if i look ahead i will see what looks like a blurry wall of a grassy hill, this usually fixes itself if i walk towards it, then bam, suddenly everything is there. I will try to get a screenshot but somtimes its hard because as soon as i notice it, the screen will judder and then everything is normal, or i just plain forget to press print screen.

I have also noticed if i do a 180 spin that the game will stutter and textures will be missing and may take around 2-3 seconds to load in properly. Worryingly on occasion i can hear a *ding sound from windows (sorry again i hope you know the sound i mean, i think its the error one) when things get really laggy, shortly after that the game will crash.

The next problem is very strange, its as if textures have been added, but only somtimes (wish i took a screenshot because this is hard to describe). For example, in Skingrad, there will be a low resolution generic house front on the mages and fighters guild, plus the stores. This sticks out further than the actual building so if i walk up to it, i clip through and i can then see the respective shop/guild as if it was normal, but if i turn around all the others are still wrong and when i walk back it pops the low resolution house front back. It fixed itself once but the next time i had to quit and reload. The trouble is this has only happend three times so far, which is very odd. Plus i dont have any texture replacers that i am aware of that would make the buildings do this.

The only other place i have seen a similar thing happen was at the bridge leading out of the imperial city to weye, it was as if it had been re-textured but the old texture was still there and wierd black lines (god this is hard to describe) kept flicking between the two at a rapid pace, again this was low poly generic looking stone.

I would also like to point out that i have only been play testing for around 8 hours. Also i started in Anvil and worked my way East towards the Imperial City. Everything was ok when i began to play.

I do have a mod that will let me carry lots of loot (Super Encumbrance), could that be a problem? i have around 300 arrows lots of weapons and armor plus alchemy ingrediants etc, from a few caves/ruins that i have cleared.

My Mods are listed below (from boss so i presume they are in load order?) i hidden the notes and bash tag suggestions (let me know if you needed them)

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmVersion 4.5b

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmVersion 4.5b

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmVersion 1.34 Beta 5

Mart's Monster Mod.esmVersion 3.7b3p3

FCOM_Convergence.esmVersion 0.9.9MB3

Armamentarium.esmVersion 1.35

Artifacts.esmVersion 1.1

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.espVersion 3.2.0

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espVersion 1.0.0

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

FCOM_Francescos.espVersion 0.9.9

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espVersion 0.9.9

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package.

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espVersion 0.9.9

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

LoadingScreens.espVersion 1.0

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Regrowing Nirnroot - Normal Plant.espVersion 1.01

Bob's Armory Oblivion.espVersion 1.1

Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.

Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide

FCOM_BobsArmory.espVersion 0.9.9

Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

Requires: either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.

FCOM_WarCry.espVersion 0.9.9MB3

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espVersion 1.33

ArmamentariumLLVendors.espVersion 1.35

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espVersion 3.7b3p3

FCOM_Convergence.espVersion 0.9.9Mb3

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.espVersion 0.9.9beta2

FCOM_RealSwords.espVersion 0.9.9

FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.espVersion 0.9.9

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.espVersion 3.7b3p3

FCOM_SaferRoads.espVersion 0.9.9

FCOM_LessRats.espVersion 0.9.9

Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espVersion 3.7b3p3f

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Requires: MMM and MMM Gems & Gem Dust.

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.espVersion 0.9.9

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.espVersion 0.9.9

Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

FCOM_FriendlierFactions.espVersion 0.9.9

ArmamentariumLL4OOO.espVersion 2.01

ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.espVersion 1.35

Artifacts.espVersion 1.1

Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.espVersion 1.0

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espVersion 3.7b3p3

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

moremerchantmoneyv1.1.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

Oblivion XP.espVersion 4.1.5

OOO-Level_Stock.espVersion 1.33

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.espVersion 3.7b3p3

MRP - Autosaving.esp

MRP - Loading area.esp

FCOM_Archery.espVersion 0.9.9

MiniMap.espVersion 0.7.2

Bashed Patch, 0.espVersion 07/07/2011 21:53:41

−Unrecognised Plugins

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Super Encumbrance.espVersion 1.0

−Plugin Numbers

Number of recognised plugins: 73

Number of unrecognised plugins: 1

Number of ghosted plugins: 0

Total number of plugins: 74

Execution Complete

This is what wyre bash says (in a box) after i rebuilt my patch. Warning this is big

Overview

Date/Time

• 07/07/2011 21:53:39

• Elapsed Time: 0:03:40.044

Active Mods

• 00 Oblivion.esm

• 01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5b]

• 02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5b]

• 03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

• 04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

• 06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]

• 07 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]

• 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

• 09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

• 0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

• 0B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

• 0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

• 0D FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 0E FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 0F FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 10 LoadingScreens.esp

• 11 Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

• 12 Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp

• 13 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

• 14 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

• 15 Symphony of Violence.esp

• 16 MIS Low Wind.esp

• 17 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

• 18 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

• 19 Storms & Sound.esp

• 1A AliveWaters.esp

• 1B AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

• 1C AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

• 1D Regrowing Nirnroot - Normal Plant.esp [Version 1.01]

• 1E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

• 1F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 20 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]

• 21 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

• 22 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

• 23 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]

• 24 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 25 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

• 26 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

• 27 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 28 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 2A FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 2B FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 2C Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 2D Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 2E Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 2F Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 30 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 33 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]

• 35 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 36 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 37 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 38 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 39 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]

• 3A ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]

• 3B Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]

• 3C Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]

• 3D Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 3E Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

• 3F moremerchantmoneyv1.1.esp

• 40 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

• 41 Oblivion XP.esp

• 42 OOO-Level_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]

• 43 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

• 44 MRP - Autosaving.esp

• 45 MRP - Loading area.esp

• 46 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 47 MiniMap.esp

Import Actors

Source Mods

• Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

Modified Records

• CREA: 168

• NPC_: 295

Import Actors: AIPackages

Source Mods

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

AI Package Lists Changed: 15

• Oblivion.esm: 15

Import Actors: Death Items

Source Mods

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

Modified Records

• CREA: 77

• NPC_: 1

Import Actors: Spells

Source Mods

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

Spell Lists Changed: 7

• Oblivion.esm: 7

Import Factions

Source Mods/Files

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• FCOM_Convergence.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

Refactioned Actors

• CREA: 5

• NPC_: 9

Import Graphics

Source Mods

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

Modified Records

• AMMO: 7

• ARMO: 1

• CREA: 7

• MISC: 22

Import Inventory

Source Mods

• Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

• FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

Inventories Changed: 498

• Oblivion.esm: 498

Import Relations

Source Mods/Files

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• FCOM_Convergence.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp

Modified Factions: 15

Import Scripts

Source Mods

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

• FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

Modified Records

• FLOR: 1

• MISC: 20

• NPC_: 3

Import Stats

Source Mods/Files

• Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

• FCOM_WarCry.esp

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp

• Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

• FCOM_Archery.esp

Modified Stats

• Misc: 19

• Oblivion.esm: 19

Tweak Names

• Lore Friendly Names: Dwarven -> Dwemer: 122

• Oblivion.esm: 13

• Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm: 18

• Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm: 12

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm: 6

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm: 7

• Armamentarium.esm: 6

• Artifacts.esm: 39

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp: 21

Leveled Lists

Delevelers/Relevelers

• Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [ADR]

• Mart's Monster Mod.esm [ADR]

• FCOM_Convergence.esm [ADR]

• Armamentarium.esm [AR]

• Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_Francescos.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [ADR]

• Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_WarCry.esp [ADR]

• Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_RealSwords.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [ADR]

• FCOM_LessRats.esp [ADR]

• Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [AD]

• Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [AD]

Merged Creature Lists

• AMMLL3BanditBossLvl100

• FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

• AMMLL3MarauderBossLvl100

• FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

• AMMNPCAdventurers

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCAdventurersArgonianMultiple

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCAdventurersArgonianSingle

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCAdventurersKhajiitSingle

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCAdventurersOrcSingle

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCAdventurersOther

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCBarbarian

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCReaversGroup

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCSmuggler

• Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

• AMMNPCSpecialBanditStr

• FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

• AMMNPCSpecialMarauderStr

• FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

• FCOM_Convergence.esp [ADR]

• FranLL0CreaBeastLev01