barryco Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) i got random crashes at exterior especially when i'm riding a horse that's continuously running in 3rd person view. there's no specific place that the crashes occur. i have a lot of mods installed including qarl's redimized, fcom and bbc and some minor mods. i'm confident with my installation and i also clean dirty plugins via tes4edit as instructed. i'm quite i confiden't i did not mess anything. my specs are: intel core i5 2400 (3.10GHz), 8GB Ram, GTS 450 (factory OC edition), and i'm running on win 7 64 bit. i'm too lazy to reinstall and test. so, is this solvable or just one of the limitation of oblivion? this is the only crash i get, so i'm not very worriedalso, my oblivion exe is patched to use 4gb. Edited July 9, 2011 by barryco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Please post your load order: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:How_to_Post_Your_Load_Order No, I don't think this is some built in limitation of the game, and I don't think you need to reinstall either. --Tomlong54210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryco Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Please post your load order: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:How_to_Post_Your_Load_Order No, I don't think this is some built in limitation of the game, and I don't think you need to reinstall either. --Tomlong54210 oops sorry, here's my load order Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.2.1] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73] 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 07 VASE - core.esm 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 0A Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] 0B Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5] 0C Progress.esm [Version 2.0] ** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp ** TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.4] 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 10 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] ++ Shivering OOO.esp ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp ** TNR ALL RACES FINAL Vwalk UOS.esp ** TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms Vwalk UOS.esp 11 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp ++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 17 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 18 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 19 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 1A All Natural.esp [Version 1.2] 1B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.2.1] 1C Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 1D Realistic Water.esp 1E MIS Low Wind.esp 1F MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 20 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 21 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.2.1] 22 WindowLightingSystem.esp 23 AliveWaters.esp 24 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 25 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 26 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp 27 ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78] 28 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.2.2] 29 FormID Finder4.esp 2A Get Wet - just droplets.esp 2B Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42] 2C P1DmenuEscape.esp 2D Streamline 3.1.esp 2E Improved Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.1] 2F DLCHorseArmor.esp 30 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 31 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] 32 DLCOrrery.esp 33 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 34 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] 35 DLCVileLair.esp 36 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] 37 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 38 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp 39 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30] 3A DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp ++ Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp 3B XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp 3C Mounted_Steering.esp 3D Mounted_Spellcasting.esp 3E Mounted_Trampling.esp 3F Dude Wheres My Horse.esp 40 DLCThievesDen.esp 41 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 42 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp 43 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30] 44 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] 45 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 46 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 47 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 48 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] 49 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09] 4A FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5] 4B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] ++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp [Version 0.5] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp ** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0] ++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35] 4C ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] 4D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] 4E FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] 4F FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 50 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] 51 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 52 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 53 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 54 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] ++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 59 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] 5A KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp [Version 1.2] 5B OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73] 5C Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp 5D Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1] ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] 5E Clamshell_Cottage_v1.5_COBL.esp 5F LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5] 60 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp 61 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 62 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp 63 ArenaGamblingHighRollers.esp 64 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 65 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 66 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30] 67 DLCFrostcrag.esp 68 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 69 SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.2] ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 6A Knights.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] ** DLC_MOBS.esp 6B The Lost Spires.esp ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] 6C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 6D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 6E xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 6F xulTheHeath.esp 70 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp 71 XulEntiusGorge.esp 72 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 73 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2] 74 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 75 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 76 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 77 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] ** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 78 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] 79 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] 7A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 7B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 7C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 7D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 7E xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] ** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 7F MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp 80 xulPantherRiver.esp 81 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 82 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1] ** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 83 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6] ** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 84 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 85 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 86 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 87 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] ** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 88 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] 89 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp 8A xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp ** xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp 8B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 8C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 8D Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 8E Automagic Bags.esp [Version 4.03] 8F EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 90 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp ++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp 91 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp ++ Short Grass V3.esp 92 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0] 93 ATakesAll.esp 94 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 95 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 96 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0] 97 RealisticForceMedium.esp 98 RealisticMagicForceLow.esp 99 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] 9A SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] 9B SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] 9C MidasSpells.esp 9D Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp ++ Harvest [Flora] - Patch.esp 9E ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 1.0] 9F ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0] ++ OOO-Level_Stock.esp [Version 1.33] A0 RealisticLeveling.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.78] ++ AMB.esp A1 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] A2 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] A3 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] A4 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5] ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] A5 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.5] A6 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5] A7 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5] ** Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp A8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0] A9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0] AA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.7.0] AB Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp AC Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 4.9.5] AD Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] AE Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1] ++ Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5] AF MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages-Lite.esp ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] B0 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] B1 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.2] B2 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 1. Update All Natural: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 2. Check your Streamline Config: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:Configuring_Streamline Would you happen to have a link to that A Takes All mod on hand? I'd like to try it, ha-ha. 3. 74 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]75 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] <-- Drop one of these. Run the EV version or the Dutsch version, and don't run two copies of any UL or UL patch at the same time. 4. 60 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp61 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp <-- this is a replacer for the one above, so uninstall the above plugin/mod 5. ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Trade this for the Loot OOO version 6. Update UOP Supplementals: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 7. 1D Realistic Water.esp <-- You could toss this and install OBGE Liquid, and if you do use it, drop any other water mods. 8. 8B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] <-- This is known to cause crashes for some. 9. What mod does these come from, and have you tried disabling them? I haven't heard of a mounted combat mod that wasn't buggy yet, although I guess some people run Deadly Reflex without issues. I wouldn't know... :L 3C Mounted_Steering.esp3D Mounted_Spellcasting.esp3E Mounted_Trampling.esp --Tomlong54210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryco Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 1. Update All Natural: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 2. Check your Streamline Config: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:Configuring_Streamline Would you happen to have a link to that A Takes All mod on hand? I'd like to try it, ha-ha. 3. 74 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]75 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] <-- Drop one of these. Run the EV version or the Dutsch version, and don't run two copies of any UL or UL patch at the same time. 4. 60 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp61 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp <-- this is a replacer for the one above, so uninstall the above plugin/mod 5. ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Trade this for the Loot OOO version 6. Update UOP Supplementals: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 7. 1D Realistic Water.esp <-- You could toss this and install OBGE Liquid, and if you do use it, drop any other water mods. 8. 8B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] <-- This is known to cause crashes for some. 9. What mod does these come from, and have you tried disabling them? I haven't heard of a mounted combat mod that wasn't buggy yet, although I guess some people run Deadly Reflex without issues. I wouldn't know... :L 3C Mounted_Steering.esp3D Mounted_Spellcasting.esp3E Mounted_Trampling.esp --Tomlong54210 A Takes Allhttp://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27638 thanks for a quick reply, i have a few questions though I think All Natural is a complex mod, some other mods rely or make use of it like immersive interiors and bbc, is it safe to update that mod? isn't updating requires me to uninstall it first prior to installing the new one? i tried obge liquid water v1 nd v2 and it's fantastic, however it's buggy in my installation, i don't know, i may have done something wrong. and also i want to imit the use of obge shaders, i'm only using godrays and bleachbypass. anti-aliasing still works fine i haven't tried disabling the last three mods you said. they came from mounted combat mod. i'll try your suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 1. Update All Natural: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 2. Check your Streamline Config: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:Configuring_Streamline Would you happen to have a link to that A Takes All mod on hand? I'd like to try it, ha-ha. 3. 74 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]75 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] <-- Drop one of these. Run the EV version or the Dutsch version, and don't run two copies of any UL or UL patch at the same time. 4. 60 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp61 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp <-- this is a replacer for the one above, so uninstall the above plugin/mod 5. ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Trade this for the Loot OOO version 6. Update UOP Supplementals: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 7. 1D Realistic Water.esp <-- You could toss this and install OBGE Liquid, and if you do use it, drop any other water mods. 8. 8B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] <-- This is known to cause crashes for some. 9. What mod does these come from, and have you tried disabling them? I haven't heard of a mounted combat mod that wasn't buggy yet, although I guess some people run Deadly Reflex without issues. I wouldn't know... :L 3C Mounted_Steering.esp3D Mounted_Spellcasting.esp3E Mounted_Trampling.esp --Tomlong54210 A Takes Allhttp://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27638 thanks for a quick reply, i have a few questions though I think All Natural is a complex mod, some other mods rely or make use of it like immersive interiors and bbc, is it safe to update that mod? isn't updating requires me to uninstall it first prior to installing the new one? i tried obge liquid water v1 nd v2 and it's fantastic, however it's buggy in my installation, i don't know, i may have done something wrong. and also i want to imit the use of obge shaders, i'm only using godrays and bleachbypass. anti-aliasing still works fine i haven't tried disabling the last three mods you said. they came from mounted combat mod. i'll try your suggestion.If mod's require a clean save to update, they should say so in the ReadMe. The AN guys are very good about that thing, and I don't recall such instructions for 1.2 to 1.3. That is always the safest route, but, no, I don't think you need to worry about updating. OBGE Liquid v2 has been updated. There is also a fix for a flickering bug on the release thread. If you need the link for that issue and fix, I can post it here. I don't use any of the special stuff, but OBGEv3.0.1 Core + OBGE Liquid works great and seems to be much faster than OBGEv2. Maybe you had a bad install. OBSE mounted combat? I could not get that mod to install without having crashes, but good luck. --Tomlong54210 Edit: Thanks for the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 The Readme for Mounted Combat OBSE states "4- If you still have Mounted_Steering.esp please delete it. It is already included in Mounted_Trampling.esp and running both at once will cause problems in your game." Try removing Steering from the load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryco Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 1. Update All Natural: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 2. Check your Streamline Config: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:Configuring_Streamline Would you happen to have a link to that A Takes All mod on hand? I'd like to try it, ha-ha. 3. 74 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]75 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] <-- Drop one of these. Run the EV version or the Dutsch version, and don't run two copies of any UL or UL patch at the same time. 4. 60 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp61 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp <-- this is a replacer for the one above, so uninstall the above plugin/mod 5. ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Trade this for the Loot OOO version 6. Update UOP Supplementals: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 7. 1D Realistic Water.esp <-- You could toss this and install OBGE Liquid, and if you do use it, drop any other water mods. 8. 8B Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] <-- This is known to cause crashes for some. 9. What mod does these come from, and have you tried disabling them? I haven't heard of a mounted combat mod that wasn't buggy yet, although I guess some people run Deadly Reflex without issues. I wouldn't know... :L 3C Mounted_Steering.esp3D Mounted_Spellcasting.esp3E Mounted_Trampling.esp --Tomlong54210 A Takes Allhttp://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27638 thanks for a quick reply, i have a few questions though I think All Natural is a complex mod, some other mods rely or make use of it like immersive interiors and bbc, is it safe to update that mod? isn't updating requires me to uninstall it first prior to installing the new one? i tried obge liquid water v1 nd v2 and it's fantastic, however it's buggy in my installation, i don't know, i may have done something wrong. and also i want to imit the use of obge shaders, i'm only using godrays and bleachbypass. anti-aliasing still works fine i haven't tried disabling the last three mods you said. they came from mounted combat mod. i'll try your suggestion.If mod's require a clean save to update, they should say so in the ReadMe. The AN guys are very good about that thing, and I don't recall such instructions for 1.2 to 1.3. That is always the safest route, but, no, I don't think you need to worry about updating. OBGE Liquid v2 has been updated. There is also a fix for a flickering bug on the release thread. If you need the link for that issue and fix, I can post it here. I don't use any of the special stuff, but OBGEv3.0.1 Core + OBGE Liquid works great and seems to be much faster than OBGEv2. Maybe you had a bad install. OBSE mounted combat? I could not get that mod to install without having crashes, but good luck. --Tomlong54210 Edit: Thanks for the link! yes please. can you post the link to that obge liquid water fix. i'll try it. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Here you go: http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1206450-obge-liquid-water/page__view__findpost__p__18031113' I think you still need the v3.0.1 download installed beforehand. I haven't used this fix because I haven't run across the bug. --Tomlong54210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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