GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Ok, I updated to the latest 1.4 patch and the game worked fine; except that I noticed that I couldn't use my wheel CLICK function (to change from 1st to 3rd person with the wheel CLICK, center button on the mouse). However, after I decided to update larger mods like Project Nevada and WMX I could'nt even load the main menu. So I played with the load order about 10 times, nothing changed. Here is the load order I finally ended up with. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCBC Dead Money Patch.esmIWS-Core.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmDetect Traps.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmMoMod.esmCustomRace.esmCaliber.esmiHUD.esmSelective Fire.esmLings.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmNV GameStabilizerA8.esmArwen_Camera.espReadius_NV.espFairyRadar.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espBetter Burned Man.espAWOPMonsterPatch.espAWOP-MoMod.espIWS-MoMod.espPMT - XPadjust.espXFO - 4a - Perks - Paths.espCustomRace-Ling.espXFO - 4bb - Perks - Two Perks Per Level.espXFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.espXFO - 9db - Enemies - NPC Healing - med.espZombie Serenade.espArwen_NV_Realism_Core.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espSelective Fire - Project Nevada.esppnv.esppnvprojectnevada.esppnvprojectnevadarebalance.espDog_City3.espNewVegasBounties.esppnvnvbount1.espDetect Traps - Perk.espDetect Traps - Traponator 4000.espAG Melee Mods.espDetect Traps - DLC.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.esppopulatedcasino-light.espLingerie.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.espAhzteks Weapon Overhaul.espAhzteks Impact Data (Optional).espAhzteks Muzzle Flashes (Optional).espRBDC - DM.espRBDC - HH.espRBDC - HH - Authentic Burned Man.espAhzteks Pistol and SMG Replacements.espWastelandNecklaceCollection.espSelective Fire - Ahzteks Weapon Overhaul.espAdvanced Recon Armor.espAdvanced Recon Range Finder.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espepock.espHDTshop.espJillBSAA.espBBAliceMurray.espType3 Leather Armors.espType3 Leather Armors-lvld.espBody by Race.espheadgearfix.espRWKNV.espVeronica.espCass.espShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.espnoautoaim.espMore Realistic Aiming.espReactive People - Ultimatum.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espWMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.espWMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.espRH_IronSights_NV_Vanilla.espFellout.espfriendofnightforfellout.espNevada Skies.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espKaya47NordicBags.espCombatModeNV.espDehydrationEffectNV.espHungerEffectNV.espRadiationEffects-greenNV.espSneakNV.espTirenessEffectNV.espNazi Zombies House.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espNV GameStabilizerA8.esp Total active plugins: 110Total plugins: 110 That is the automatic BOSS sorting. Now I experimented on FOMOD by hitting the "Uncheck All" Setting and only activating these: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCBC Dead Money Patch.esm The result was that I crashed even earlier than before (it took less time than before). So then I checked ALL ESMs, and NOTHING ELSE. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCBC Dead Money Patch.esmIWS-Core.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmDetect Traps.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmMoMod.esmCustomRace.esmCaliber.esmiHUD.esmSelective Fire.esmLings.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmNV GameStabilizerA8.esm The result was an EVEN FASTER CRASH THAN BEFORE!!! So I said to myself, "f*** this!"Hit the "Check All" settings and ACTIVATED EVERY SINGLE MASTER/PLUGIN, EVERYTHING. The result? AN EVEN FASTER CRASH!!It boots, and I see the copyright screen and immediately crash. Any ideas? I'll be monitoring this Sub-Forum closely for similar situations (Which I have found a few already.) If you need ANY more information, let me know. [EDIT] Just tried one last time before I get off, and it seems that I just insta-crash now... so much for all of 1.4's "optimizations"... Edited July 11, 2011 by GothikaGeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 However, after I decided to update larger mods like Project Nevada and WMX I could'nt even load the main menu AWOPMonsterPatch.espAWOP-MoMod.esp Total active plugins: 115Total plugins: 115you be a usin patches for mods you don't have results in auto-k-rashing before main menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnubee Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 You are pretty much describing exactly what is happening to me. I am down to loading only the Fallout.esm and still can't get any further than the first credit screen. About 50% of the time, my system locks up solid and I have to do a hard restart. I'd really like to know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hmm, let me get rid of those and see if there's a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Just changed up my load order a bit and now I can load right back into JUST BEFORE main menu loads. Not sure if the new load order or the the shutdown helped it out. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCBC Dead Money Patch.esmIWS-Core.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmDetect Traps.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmMoMod.esmCustomRace.esmCaliber.esmiHUD.esmSelective Fire.esmLings.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmNV GameStabilizerA8.esmRBDC - DM.espRBDC - HH.espBetter Burned Man.espRBDC - HH - Authentic Burned Man.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espAdvanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.espAdvanced Recon Armor.espAdvanced Recon Range Finder.espCustomRace-Ling.espArwen_Camera.espReadius_NV.espFairyRadar.espIWS-MoMod.espPMT - XPadjust.espXFO - 4a - Perks - Paths.espXFO - 4bb - Perks - Two Perks Per Level.espXFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.espXFO - 9db - Enemies - NPC Healing - med.espZombie Serenade.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espSelective Fire - Project Nevada.esppnv.esppnvprojectnevada.esppnvprojectnevadarebalance.espNewVegasBounties.esppnvnvbount1.espDetect Traps - Perk.espDetect Traps - Traponator 4000.espAG Melee Mods.espDetect Traps - DLC.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.esppopulatedcasino-light.espLingerie.espAhzteks Weapon Overhaul.espAhzteks Impact Data (Optional).espAhzteks Muzzle Flashes (Optional).espAhzteks Pistol and SMG Replacements.espSelective Fire - Ahzteks Weapon Overhaul.espWastelandNecklaceCollection.espepock.espHDTshop.espJillBSAA.espBBAliceMurray.espType3 Leather Armors.espType3 Leather Armors-lvld.espBody by Race.espheadgearfix.espRWKNV.espVeronica.espCass.espShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.espnoautoaim.espMore Realistic Aiming.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espWMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.espWMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.espRH_IronSights_NV_Vanilla.espFellout.espfriendofnightforfellout.espNevada Skies.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espKaya47NordicBags.espCombatModeNV.espDehydrationEffectNV.espHungerEffectNV.espRadiationEffects-greenNV.espSneakNV.espTirenessEffectNV.espNazi Zombies House.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espNV GameStabilizerA8.esp Total active plugins: 110Total plugins: 110 I'll experiment some more to see what I come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 By the way, I do have the ATI Catalyst Control Center activated. Will turning it off help? I keep hearing that graphic accelerators make this game suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrivener07 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Community Bugfix Compilation Patch.esm [b]CBC Dead Money Patch.esm[/b]I think you only need one of these, I could be wrongedit: Im wrong use both :facepalm: WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.espGet rid of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Huh, good idea. I'll get back to you When the load order is updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothikaGeist Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Updated it FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCBC Dead Money Patch.esmIWS-Core.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmMoMod.esmCustomRace.esmCaliber.esmiHUD.esmLings.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmDetect Traps.esmSelective Fire.esmNV GameStabilizerA8.esmRBDC - DM.espRBDC - HH.espBetter Burned Man.espRBDC - HH - Authentic Burned Man.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espCustomRace-Ling.espArwen_Camera.espReadius_NV.espFairyRadar.espIWS-MoMod.espPMT - XPadjust.espXFO - 4a - Perks - Paths.espXFO - 4bb - Perks - Two Perks Per Level.espXFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.espXFO - 9db - Enemies - NPC Healing - med.espZombie Serenade.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espSelective Fire - Project Nevada.esppnv.esppnvprojectnevada.esppnvprojectnevadarebalance.espNewVegasBounties.esppnvnvbount1.espAG Melee Mods.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.esppopulatedcasino-light.espLingerie.espWastelandNecklaceCollection.espepock.espHDTshop.espJillBSAA.espBBAliceMurray.espType3 Leather Armors.espType3 Leather Armors-lvld.espBody by Race.espheadgearfix.espRWKNV.espVeronica.espCass.espShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.espnoautoaim.espMore Realistic Aiming.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espRH_IronSights_NV_Vanilla.espFellout.espfriendofnightforfellout.espNevada Skies.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espCombatModeNV.espDehydrationEffectNV.espHungerEffectNV.espRadiationEffects-greenNV.espSneakNV.espTirenessEffectNV.espAdvanced Recon Armor.espAdvanced Recon Range Finder.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espDetect Traps - DLC.espDetect Traps - Perk.espDetect Traps - Traponator 4000.espKaya47NordicBags.espNazi Zombies House.espAhzteks Weapon Overhaul.espAhzteks Impact Data (Optional).espAhzteks Muzzle Flashes (Optional).espSelective Fire - Ahzteks Weapon Overhaul.espAhzteks Pistol and SMG Replacements.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espNV GameStabilizerA8.esp Total active plugins: 103Total plugins: 110 Nothing changed. Guess I'll Uninstall FO:NV and Re-install. I'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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