marharth Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Now since Hawaii was made a state in 1959, it would be after the time split correct? That might mean Hawaii was never made a part of the USA. That being said, it may of never been nuked, and could be perfectly fine. Anyone else thought of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrosocial Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Interesting....so it would still just be a prewar society.... Although the games never do hint at any country that survived the bombs, or surely we would see them as NPCs in game. I guess it could be possible that the world was put into a nuclear winter, thus wiping out everyone not in the vualts or the strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Interesting....so it would still just be a prewar society.... Although the games never do hint at any country that survived the bombs, or surely we would see them as NPCs in game. I guess it could be possible that the world was put into a nuclear winter, thus wiping out everyone not in the vualts or the strip.Well the strip was only protected by missiles, so anyone living/on the strip would have became ghouls or died from radiation. Plus the tribes and people living in non nuked areas point away from a nuclear winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrosocial Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 By that reasoning, we could assune either the enclave or china are in control and or fighting for it, and the island was saved due to defensive missiles from pearl harbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 By that reasoning, we could assune either the enclave or china are in control and or fighting for it, and the island was saved due to defensive missiles from pearl harbor.Could be true, but missile defense technology doesn't seem too advanced or even used in fallout. If missile defense tech was going to be used by the US, a lot of places would be a lot better off. The enclave shows no trace of being anywhere else now, by the time of fallout new vegas they are gone. As for china, its hard to say how china is doing. China might of launched their missiles first and had a defense system ready for the rest. I highly doubt this considering that two hundred years have passed without the Chinese occupation of USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrosocial Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 True, but as you stated Hawaii was not part of the Uninted States at the time plit, so it's possible it may be run by it's own faction, or remnants of the chinese government(the Dragoons, maybe?) It is possible that china suffered just as much devastation as america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hawaii was still a US incorporated territory that had US military installations on it at the time of divergence. It is highly likely that the island chain was wiped clean by just a couple warheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hawaii was still a US incorporated territory that had US military installations on it at the time of divergence. It is highly likely that the island chain was wiped clean by just a couple warheads.But 200 years after world war two? It is possible that the USA gave up the military base there in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzy1319 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hawaii was still a US incorporated territory that had US military installations on it at the time of divergence. It is highly likely that the island chain was wiped clean by just a couple warheads.But 200 years after world war two? It is possible that the USA gave up the military base there in that time. Why would they? Its an excellent staging area just like in WW2. What I would want to know is if there was a Hawaiian front, just like Anchorage. Or if the Americans lost the Hawaiian front thats why the Reds got into Alaska. or did the Chinese totally bypass it or did they overstate the fact that hawaii was in danger so the chinese surprised attacked anchorage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrosocial Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hawaii was still a US incorporated territory that had US military installations on it at the time of divergence. It is highly likely that the island chain was wiped clean by just a couple warheads.But 200 years after world war two? It is possible that the USA gave up the military base there in that time. Why would they? Its an excellent staging area just like in WW2. What I would want to know is if there was a Hawaiian front, just like Anchorage. Or if the Americans lost the Hawaiian front thats why the Reds got into Alaska. or did the Chinese totally bypass it or did they overstate the fact that hawaii was in danger so the chinese surprised attacked anchorage. This true, it could either be that hawaii was taken by the reds and used as a staging point into alaska, or their spys spread the rumors of attack on hawaii and then sailed right past it. It could be that hawaii was taken before the bombs fell and during the battle pearl harbor was wiped out and useless to either side, so it was not a target of a nuclear strike. If it is occupied in fallout, then I would assume it is most likely under NCR control, as they have california, so Hawaii isn't too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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