livipup Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I really hope I'm posting this in the right forum. I'm not asking anybody to make these kinds of mods for me, but I'm wondering if anything of the sort already exists. I was looking for mods that make the vanilla + DLC armours more feminine without turning them into what is basically an armoured bikini. I did find one mod on Nexus called Less Bulky Glass Armor (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25330/?) that I thought was very good, but I haven't been able to find any others. Does anybody know where I can find armour meshes like this one for other armours? It's okay if pieces of the armour are removed so long as it actually looks like it would protect whoever is wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierySwordswoman Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) If you start removing the edges of armor and make it more "form fitting", then good luck deflecting a greatsword swing. Based on the title, I assume you play as a female character.So, if the armor was feminized, you'd have more or less an armored outline of the female body, yes?Females have breasts, yes?Those breasts would create a "V" shape in the chest area, yes? Now. Think about where the sword would go if it hit the "V" anywhere.... That's right. All the kinetic energy would go straight to the sternum. Ouch.Thicker, less "form-fitting" protective armor will usually form a "Ʌ" shape on the chest instead. Like this ebony armor. To help visualize this, imagine a ball falling onto a set of armor lying on it's back.o oV ɅOn the left we have the "V" made by the breast area of the feminized armor, and on the right we have the "Ʌ" of the standard armor.If the ball on the left falls, all of the kinetic energy is reflected inwards to the center of the "V", which would be the middle of your chest.If the ball on the right falls, the kinetic energy is reflected off to the side, saving your luscious ribs. Of course, you probably don't care about any of this, in which case...Find a mod that converts all of the armor to a non-vanilla body type (UNP, CBBE, 7B, etc.) that doesn't go full strip-club and then install that body type to match it.That's the closest thing I can think of off the top of my well-angled helmet.My recommendation would be to try and find a UNP one since that's the closest to vanilla of the major types. It also works good with XP32/XPMSE for compatibility and has changeable textures. Edited May 17, 2016 by FierySwordswoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livipup Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 If you start removing the edges of armor and make it more "form fitting", then good luck deflecting a greatsword swing. Based on the title, I assume you play as a female character.So, if the armor was feminized, you'd have more or less an armored outline of the female body, yes?Females have breasts, yes?Those breasts would create a "V" shape in the chest area, yes? Now. Think about where the sword would go if it hit the "V" anywhere.... That's right. All the kinetic energy would go straight to the sternum. Ouch.Thicker, less "form-fitting" protective armor will usually form a "Ʌ" shape on the chest instead. Like this ebony armor. To help visualize this, imagine a ball falling onto a set of armor lying on it's back.o oV ɅOn the left we have the "V" made by the breast area of the feminized armor, and on the right we have the "Ʌ" of the standard armor.If the ball on the left falls, all of the kinetic energy is reflected inwards to the center of the "V", which would be the middle of your chest.If the ball on the right falls, the kinetic energy is reflected off to the side, saving your luscious ribs. Of course, you probably don't care about any of this, in which case...Find a mod that converts all of the armor to a non-vanilla body type (UNP, CBBE, 7B, etc.) that doesn't go full strip-club and then install that body type to match it.That's the closest thing I can think of off the top of my well-angled helmet.My recommendation would be to try and find a UNP one since that's the closest to vanilla of the major types. It also works good with XP32/XPMSE for compatibility and has changeable textures. Removing certain parts of the armours would certainly make it fall into the unprotective category, but many of the armours have extra details just to make them look nicer. Plus, some of the armours in the game already have boob cups which would make it much easier to stab through the chest. It look kind of protective though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My problem with the armour conversions for different body types is that they typically still look very bulky. The vanilla female body meshes, and especially any custom ones, don't typically allow the women to be very muscular and so it just looks strange having them in such heavy looking armour. For the record, I use CBBE myself. I like how customizable it is with BodySlide. I can never figure out the OutfitStudio though. It just never seems to work. I even tried just doing a batch edit of all the vanilla armours, but I couldn't figure that out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierySwordswoman Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) 0)...Plus, some of the armours in the game already have boob cups... 1)...My problem with the armour conversions for different body types is that they typically still look very bulky... 2)...I use CBBE... 0) I never said vanilla skyrim was much better lol. Every time I see Uthgerd I die a little on the inside. She's a warrior. She should know better. 1) Then you might have to try different armors entirely. Immersive Armors(UNP/Vanilla) and Tera Armors(UNP/CBBE) both have lots of armor and working level lists. Personally, I use Immersive Armors. -Default skyrim is pretty in-between 'Looking Cool' and 'Protective'. -TERA is much more 'Looking Cool' -Immersive Armors is much more 'Protective' 2) I don't know if this would be enough to set off your personal 'bikini-alarm', but for CBBE you won't get much more according to Nexus search results. Based on the screenies, it's pretty "on-the-fence" between bikini and armor; some of the joint areas are cut out. I feel your pain with the armor issue in the sense that every armor pack besides Immersive Armors and like half of the Tera Armors are pretty much swimsuits. Also, Mother of god that's a long list, Jeir. Looks like the OP has potential homework. Edited May 17, 2016 by FierySwordswoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 You don't need to use the Nexus search to find CBBE mods. There's a whole list of compatible mods (over 500 links) that's been available since 2012. (NSFW as the list is on the CBBE mod page.) Each one also has a few codes next to the link to say if there are any requirements or if its skimpy or not. Immersive Armours has also been on the list for ages, as has various versions of the TERA mod. Anyway, OP:1. Install CBBE and BodySlide. (Check?)2. Install XPMSE. Just the skeleton (folder '07 XPMSE3 (Recommended)' in the archive). You do not need to use FNIS if you just install the skeleton. This will prevent crashing with OCR and VOBS.3. Install CVO.4. Install OCR.5. Install VOBS.6. Follow the instructions given in my sticky on the BodySlide mod page (namely step 11, as it goes through BatchBuilding, which is a simple case of clicking a button, unchecking stuff you don't want, then clicking another button to let the meshes generate.) There are only two issues I know of with these three mods together: 'VOBS_noBBP Ebony Mail' doesn't have a preview and will crash BodySlide if you try to generate it, and VOBS and OCR have different wedding dresses, so it's up to you which of those you want to use.7. Done. All vanilla and DLC outfits should conform to your preset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livipup Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 0)...Plus, some of the armours in the game already have boob cups... 1)...My problem with the armour conversions for different body types is that they typically still look very bulky... 2)...I use CBBE...0) I never said vanilla skyrim was much better lol. Every time I see Uthgerd I die a little on the inside. She's a warrior. She should know better. 1) Then you might have to try different armors entirely. Immersive Armors(UNP/Vanilla) and Tera Armors(UNP/CBBE) both have lots of armor and working level lists. Personally, I use Immersive Armors.-Default skyrim is pretty in-between 'Looking Cool' and 'Protective'.-TERA is much more 'Looking Cool'-Immersive Armors is much more 'Protective' 2) I don't know if this would be enough to set off your personal 'bikini-alarm', but for CBBE you won't get much more according to Nexus search results. Based on the screenies, it's pretty "on-the-fence" between bikini and armor; some of the joint areas are cut out. I feel your pain with the armor issue in the sense that every armor pack besides Immersive Armors and like half of the Tera Armors are pretty much swimsuits. Also,Mother of god that's a long list, Jeir. Looks like the OP has potential homework. TERA and KillerKeo's replacers don't really work for me. I'm not a fan of any of the TERA armours and I'm not looking for replacers that make the armours show of all kinds of skin. A few of them aren't badly designed, but they all make the armours show off cleavage, ass, and they just don't cover a lot of the places that would be essential to protect. I might install Immersive Armours, but I never liked having to go through the MCM to turn off all of the armours I don't like. You don't need to use the Nexus search to find CBBE mods. There's a whole list of compatible mods (over 500 links) that's been available since 2012. (NSFW as the list is on the CBBE mod page.) Each one also has a few codes next to the link to say if there are any requirements or if its skimpy or not. Immersive Armours has also been on the list for ages, as has various versions of the TERA mod. Anyway, OP:1. Install CBBE and BodySlide. (Check?)2. Install XPMSE. Just the skeleton (folder '07 XPMSE3 (Recommended)' in the archive). You do not need to use FNIS if you just install the skeleton. This will prevent crashing with OCR and VOBS.3. Install CVO.4. Install OCR.5. Install VOBS.6. Follow the instructions given in my sticky on the BodySlide mod page (namely step 11, as it goes through BatchBuilding, which is a simple case of clicking a button, unchecking stuff you don't want, then clicking another button to let the meshes generate.) There are only two issues I know of with these three mods together: 'VOBS_noBBP Ebony Mail' doesn't have a preview and will crash BodySlide if you try to generate it, and VOBS and OCR have different wedding dresses, so it's up to you which of those you want to use.7. Done. All vanilla and DLC outfits should conform to your preset.I looked through the list and didn't find anything I liked. I already have Caliente's conversions. I wasn't really looking to add new armours to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 CVO is Caliente's conversion. The other two complete the outfits, all the vanilla and DLC ones, so they all fit CBBE. This is exactly what you wanted. All vanilla and DLC outfits being 'more feminine', i.e. fitting your body mod's shape, without showing more skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livipup Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 CVO is Caliente's conversion. The other two complete the outfits, all the vanilla and DLC ones, so they all fit CBBE. This is exactly what you wanted. All vanilla and DLC outfits being 'more feminine', i.e. fitting your body mod's shape, without showing more skin.I felt like many of the outfits hardly looked any different besides having much larger breasts than before. I did find a mod that makes the shoulders smaller on orcish armour, but it wasn't made for CBBE. If you want to check it out click here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7715/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 CVO is Caliente's conversion. The other two complete the outfits, all the vanilla and DLC ones, so they all fit CBBE. This is exactly what you wanted. All vanilla and DLC outfits being 'more feminine', i.e. fitting your body mod's shape, without showing more skin.I felt like many of the outfits hardly looked any different besides having much larger breasts than before. I did find a mod that makes the shoulders smaller on orcish armour, but it wasn't made for CBBE. If you want to check it out click here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7715/? That's what BodySlide is for. You want jumbo boobs? You can have them! You want the waist to be 1 pixel wide? You can! You want a realistic bodyshape? You can! You can even use Outfit studio to do pretty much whatever you want to the meshes yourself; it's essentially a more user-friendly Blender/3DSMax. All CBBE-compatible mods I know about are on that list. If you can't find what you want there (which apparently isn't all the vanilla and DLC outfits made to fit your chosen body shape) then you may have to make it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livipup Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 CVO is Caliente's conversion. The other two complete the outfits, all the vanilla and DLC ones, so they all fit CBBE. This is exactly what you wanted. All vanilla and DLC outfits being 'more feminine', i.e. fitting your body mod's shape, without showing more skin.I felt like many of the outfits hardly looked any different besides having much larger breasts than before. I did find a mod that makes the shoulders smaller on orcish armour, but it wasn't made for CBBE. If you want to check it out click here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7715/? That's what BodySlide is for. You want jumbo boobs? You can have them! You want the waist to be 1 pixel wide? You can! You want a realistic bodyshape? You can! You can even use Outfit studio to do pretty much whatever you want to the meshes yourself; it's essentially a more user-friendly Blender/3DSMax. All CBBE-compatible mods I know about are on that list. If you can't find what you want there (which apparently isn't all the vanilla and DLC outfits made to fit your chosen body shape) then you may have to make it yourself. I'm not good with Outfit Studio, but I managed to get a batch build to work on a lot of the meshes to shape them to a custom body in BodySlide. I did notice some clipping on the arms of my apprentice mage robes. I should be able to figure out how to at least fix this to start, then once I'm more familiar with the program I might be able to do this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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