cptcairney Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Having problems with the lucky casino, when I enter I'm getting an instant CTD, thing is i cant remember the last time I entered and everything was ok, tried disabling v1.5 of the new bison Steve hotel mod but still the problem occurs.EDIT: Tried updating to 1.6 of the new bison Steve hotel but still no luck :/Also I'm using master update in case your wondering why the Nevada skies esm is after allot of the esp's.Here is my load order: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmIWR.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmFOOK - New Vegas.esmFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTAC-SHOP.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - Dead Money.esmWME - Honest Hearts.esmWME - Old World Blues.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmAngelPark.esmBetterPerformance.espCazadorAudioFix.espDFB - Angel Park - Fixes.espRangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.espZion Exit.espNCRRCombatFix.espDarNifiedUINV.espBobblehunt.espIWR - Rebuilt.espOperationFixedTerrain.espPurge Cell Buffers.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espAWOPMonsterPatch.espAWOP-MoMod.espMoMod-Aliens.espMoMod-Terminators.espThe New Bison Steve Hotel.espTAC-SHOP.espUHNV.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-Bobblehunt.espLiberty Loft.espFOOK - New Vegas.espFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.espFOOK - No Loose Files.espFOOK - No Loose Files DLCs.espFOOK - Weapon Balance Hotfix.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espImproved Sound FX.espImproved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.espImproved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - DM.espImproved Sound FX - HH.espImproved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - OWB Sharing Fix.espSecretStash80.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Traits Update.esp1 AKSU ( Standart SD).espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech.espAdvanced Recon Gear-Locations Doc Mitchell.espAK47 with mods (Holosight).espBoilingOil - Eli's Edge.espChey Tac M200.espDWDEagle44.espDWSpas12.espFN_SCAR.espHHWeapsInNV.espHHWeapsInNVNPC.espKerberosPanzer.espKerberosweapons.espRHINO45-70MX_NV.espTactical Weapon Pack.espTHOR.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espArmored PA Gloves.espBOAt51b.espboa ncrpahelmet.espColossus NV.espColossus Armor For New Vegas (keylek).espColossus T49.espProject Nevada - T49XV Patch.espcourierpowerarmor.espCRHDV3O3.espHellfireArmor.espDarkfiregaming T-Shirt Mod..espFC-DesertEagle.espBerettaNV_NVSE.espEnclaveArmor.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espKerberosPanzer2.espTYR Armor NV.espRed Eye NV.espJswords4saleDMGPlus5.espQRhymeRenegade.espGeonox_Restored_Riot_Armor_GLOVE_VERSION.espKORsRangerHelmMarkII.espEMR-StealthSuitMkII.espStealthSuitModuleDT.espBurned Man Alt Armours Andy.espDesert Armor.espProject Nevada - Desert Armor Patch.espDragonskinTacticalOutfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espFiendish Power Armor.espFiendish Power Armor - Project Nevada.espGeonox_Riot_Armor.espHolster.espLeather Trench Coat NV v1.0.espNCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).espranger_leather.espRCSS.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espVaultTecPowerArmor.espWearGloves.espCompanion Sandbox Mode.espEnclaveCommander.espUnlimitedCompanions.espPipBoyLightx2.espNo Weapon Remove Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espReactive People - Ultimatum.espWeapon Mod Expansion.espWME - Ironsights.espWME - FOOK.espWME - Named & Sorted.espWME - Packless.espWME - AWOP.espProject Nevada - WME.espWME - Dead Money.espWME - FOOK - Dead Money.espWME - Honest Hearts.espWME - Old World Blues.espWME - Ironsights - HH.espWME - FOOK DLCs.espWME - Arenovalis.espWME - Dead Money Arenovalis Retex.espWME - Honest Hearts Arenovalis.espNV GameStabilizerA7.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Realistic Interiors-Full.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Darker Interiors.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espILO-RI-Honest Hearts.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-PipBoy Light.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espNSkies URWLified.esmNSkies URWLifiedDM.espNSkies URWLifiedHH.espNSkies URWLifiedOWB.espEVE FNV.espWMEVE.esp Total active plugins: 170Total plugins: 171 Please help, essential for progressing into the start of the game :( Edited August 13, 2011 by cptcairney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maboru Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Way too many mods to maintain stability and regardless of Masterupdate you should still keep real .esms up top. Try using this to sort your load order - http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35999 . Run it on it's own instead of from FOMM for more information and Bash suggestions. NV GameStabilizerA7 conflicts with some of your mods so check it's mod page for updates and the complete incompatibility list. I'm truly amazed that you've gotten that far in the game as is! What are your system specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcairney Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) well my game actually runs perfect part from this one thing, high fps and all, and ive got nmc's medium textures applied.my specs are: processor: Intel Dual Core 2 E7400memory: 8gbmotherboard: asus P5N-DGraphics card: Geforce 9800GTX + AMPSound: onboard everything runs smooth part from this instant lucky casino ctd and I need that esm after my esp's. Was working fine before and with everything else (completed the whole of old world blues with no problems).I am also using the 4gb loader and know what BOSS is, have been using it since I got fallout New Vegas months ago. Have had many problems like this before like doc Mitchell's house crashing and the saloon due to problems with there cells etc but they were solved thankfully, now this has popped up :(I cant start to imagine what it is that's causing it, last time the saloon was crashing it was due to a simple weapon add on ! bren gun to be precise, so who knows what it is this time :/ Edited August 13, 2011 by cptcairney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcairney Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 Have changed my load order and tried out a bashed patch and even deleted everything, meshes textures that were installed with the new bison Steve hotel but still to no avail :(could really use some help or advice, here is my load order now: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmIWR.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmFOOK - New Vegas.esmFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Traits.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTAC-SHOP.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - Dead Money.esmWME - Honest Hearts.esmWME - Old World Blues.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmAngelPark.esmNSkies URWLified.esmOFT_Base.espOFT_Base_Interiors.espBetterPerformance.espCazadorAudioFix.espDFB - Angel Park - Fixes.espRangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.espZion Exit.espNCRRCombatFix.espDarNifiedUINV.espBobblehunt.espIWR - Rebuilt.espPurge Cell Buffers.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espAWOPMonsterPatch.espAWOP-MoMod.espMoMod-Aliens.espMoMod-Terminators.espLiberty Loft.espTAC-SHOP.espUHNV.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-Bobblehunt.espFOOK - New Vegas.espFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.espFOOK - No Loose Files.espFOOK - No Loose Files DLCs.espFOOK - Weapon Balance Hotfix.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espImproved Sound FX.espImproved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.espImproved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - DM.espImproved Sound FX - HH.espImproved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - OWB Sharing Fix.espSecretStash80.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Traits Update.esp1 AKSU ( Standart SD).espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech.espAdvanced Recon Gear-Locations Doc Mitchell.espAK47 with mods (Holosight).espBoilingOil - Eli's Edge.espChey Tac M200.espDWDEagle44.espDWSpas12.espFN_SCAR.espHHWeapsInNV.espHHWeapsInNVNPC.espKerberosPanzer.espKerberosweapons.espRHINO45-70MX_NV.espTactical Weapon Pack.espTHOR.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espArmored PA Gloves.espBOAt51b.espboa ncrpahelmet.espColossus NV.espColossus Armor For New Vegas (keylek).espColossus T49.espProject Nevada - T49XV Patch.espcourierpowerarmor.espCRHDV3O3.espDesert Armor.espDragonskinTacticalOutfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espHellfireArmor.espDarkfiregaming T-Shirt Mod..espFC-DesertEagle.espBerettaNV_NVSE.espEnclaveArmor.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espKerberosPanzer2.espTYR Armor NV.espRed Eye NV.espJswords4saleDMGPlus5.espQRhymeRenegade.espGeonox_Restored_Riot_Armor_GLOVE_VERSION.espKORsRangerHelmMarkII.espEMR-StealthSuitMkII.espBurned Man Alt Armours Andy.espFiendish Power Armor.espFiendish Power Armor - Project Nevada.espGeonox_Riot_Armor.espHolster.espLeather Trench Coat NV v1.0.espNCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).espProject Nevada - Desert Armor Patch.espranger_leather.espRCSS.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espVaultTecPowerArmor.espWearGloves.espCompanion Sandbox Mode.espEnclaveCommander.espUnlimitedCompanions.espPipBoyLightx2.espNo Weapon Remove Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espReactive People - Ultimatum.espWeapon Mod Expansion.espWME - Ironsights.espWME - FOOK.espWME - Named & Sorted.espWME - Packless.espWME - AWOP.espProject Nevada - WME.espWME - Dead Money.espWME - FOOK - Dead Money.espWME - Honest Hearts.espWME - Old World Blues.espWME - Ironsights - HH.espWME - FOOK DLCs.espWME - Arenovalis.espWME - Dead Money Arenovalis Retex.espWME - Honest Hearts Arenovalis.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Realistic Interiors-Full.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espILO-RI-Honest Hearts.espILO-RI-PipBoy Light.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Darker Interiors.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espNSkies URWLifiedDM.espNSkies URWLifiedHH.espNSkies URWLifiedOWB.espEVE FNV.espWMEVE.esp Total active plugins: 168Total plugins: 169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maboru Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I don't recognize a lot of those mods but there are reports that IWR and WME don't play well together. You should dump BetterPerformance.esp and replace it with this - http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=40128 - and run it dead last. FOOK and EVE are incompatible according to the FOOK page. ILO needs to go last in your load order (just above Better Game Performance V4) according to it's mod page. [You do understand that when you run the BOSS GUI that it only orders the mods it recognizes and the unrecognized mods at the bottom need to be moved up manually, right?] Nevada Skies needs to go just above the ILOs. AWOP has a lot of compatibility patches that aren't in your load order. Have you tried any of the Bash fixes suggested by BOSS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcairney Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Yes i know that mate, cheers for that better performance.esp, was actually contemplating on the last one because I knew it was pretty old. I've removed a few more unneeded mods and changed my load order accordingly. just before I read the reply I had actually removed IWR :), just realized it was very outdated and wasn't needed if you had the latest operation fixed terrain.Here is my load order now : FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmFOOK - New Vegas.esmFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Traits.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTAC-SHOP.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - Dead Money.esmWME - Honest Hearts.esmWME - Old World Blues.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmAngelPark.esmNSkies URWLified.esmOFT_Base.espOFT_Base_Interiors.espDFB - Angel Park - Fixes.espRangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.espZion Exit.espNCRRCombatFix.espDarNifiedUINV.espBobblehunt.espPurge Cell Buffers.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espAWOPMonsterPatch.espAWOP-MoMod.espMoMod-Aliens.espMoMod-Terminators.espLiberty Loft.espTAC-SHOP.espUHNV.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-Bobblehunt.espFOOK - New Vegas.espFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.espFOOK - No Loose Files.espFOOK - No Loose Files DLCs.espFOOK - Weapon Balance Hotfix.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espImproved Sound FX.espImproved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.espImproved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - DM.espImproved Sound FX - HH.espImproved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - Weapon Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - HH Sharing Fix.espImproved Sound FX - WME - OWB Sharing Fix.espSecretStash80.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Traits Update.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech.espAdvanced Recon Gear-Locations Doc Mitchell.espBoilingOil - Eli's Edge.espChey Tac M200.espDWDEagle44.espDWSpas12.espFN_SCAR.espHHWeapsInNV.espHHWeapsInNVNPC.espKerberosPanzer.espKerberosweapons.espRHINO45-70MX_NV.espTactical Weapon Pack.espTHOR.espAdvanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.espArmored PA Gloves.espBOAt51b.espboa ncrpahelmet.espColossus NV.espColossus Armor For New Vegas (keylek).espColossus T49.espProject Nevada - T49XV Patch.espcourierpowerarmor.espCRHDV3O3.espDesert Armor.espDragonskinTacticalOutfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espHellfireArmor.espDarkfiregaming T-Shirt Mod..espFC-DesertEagle.espBerettaNV_NVSE.espEnclaveArmor.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espKerberosPanzer2.espTYR Armor NV.espRed Eye NV.espJswords4saleDMGPlus5.espQRhymeRenegade.espGeonox_Restored_Riot_Armor_GLOVE_VERSION.espKORsRangerHelmMarkII.espEMR-StealthSuitMkII.espBurned Man Alt Armours Andy.espFiendish Power Armor.espFiendish Power Armor - Project Nevada.espGeonox_Riot_Armor.espHolster.espLeather Trench Coat NV v1.0.espNCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).espProject Nevada - Desert Armor Patch.espranger_leather.espRCSS.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espVaultTecPowerArmor.espWearGloves.espCompanion Sandbox Mode.espEnclaveCommander.espUnlimitedCompanions.espPipBoyLightx2.espNo Weapon Remove Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espReactive People - Ultimatum.espWeapon Mod Expansion.espWME - Ironsights.espWME - FOOK.espWME - Named & Sorted.espWME - Packless.espWME - AWOP.espProject Nevada - WME.espWME - Dead Money.espWME - FOOK - Dead Money.espWME - Honest Hearts.espWME - Old World Blues.espWME - Ironsights - HH.espWME - FOOK DLCs.espWME - Arenovalis.espWME - Dead Money Arenovalis Retex.espWME - Honest Hearts Arenovalis.espNV GameStabilizerA9.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espEVE FNV.espWMEVE.espNSkies URWLifiedDM.espNSkies URWLifiedHH.espNSkies URWLifiedOWB.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Realistic Interiors-Full.espILO-RI-Original Lucky38 Suite.espILO-RI-Dead Money.espILO-RI-Honest Hearts.espILO-RI-PipBoy Light.espInterior Lighting Overhaul-Darker Interiors.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.esp Total active plugins: 164Total plugins: 165 Will let you know how things go ;) Edited August 13, 2011 by cptcairney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maboru Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Got the next step for you according to the Gamestabilizer mod page - "Non-Compatible Mods: * RRCompanionVault.esm * NVWillow.esp * 188improved.esp * ILO<< all of it, it is in the mod. * BetterGamePerformance * CHEM.esm * BinglesMelee.esp * Nevada Skies & Weather Mods Also note that New Vegas Script Extender(NVSE) it not compatible with this mod. Using NVSE will cause extremely hinder this mods ability to work. We are sorry that it had to come to this, but that is how it is." Since I can't play without NVSE I had to drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcairney Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Still no luck sadly :( the most annoying thing is my game is running smooth as hell and probably the best I've ever had it running since getting it from release. aghhh the joys :) EDIT: anyone know of any other thins that can alter anything with the lucky casino in Primm? looking over my mesh and texture files but there's so many :/ still need help for this, anything would be good :) Edited August 14, 2011 by cptcairney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcairney Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 sorry for pestering again but i could really do with some help here. Noticed another ctd which occurs when a few or several enemy's are killed at once or I've noticed it ctd with the custom barret rifle, think it may be a sound conflict ? The other problem is still occurring and is starting to do my head in, when will Bethesda make a bug free game i wonder :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maboru Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Got this from the Bison Steve mod page - "QUOTE It's the latest FOOK update. I can't figure out why FOOK would conflict with your mod. Wow, that is very strange. That's part of the reason I don't really care for overhauls to be honest, lol. They just change SO much stuff, there is bound to be a conflict that will happen sooner or later. Thanks for the info, and if you find out anything further, please drop by and let me know, especially if there is something I can do to eliminate their conflict. Even though I don't use it, I know there are a lot of people who do, and I'd hate for them to have to choose between my mod and FOOK." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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