urbex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Consoles games have no DRM whatsoever once their OS is broken. They're almost always leaked a week before their release dates. Consoles don't stop anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halororor Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 As someone before me said, DRM isn't about piracy at all. DRM is about stopping DAY ONE piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowk Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 It's called not tying Steamworks into the Steam app. I have no problem with either on their own. Steam itself should be optional, Steamworks as an online authentication DRM is acceptable. This way EVERYONE is happy. Even the pirates. Who are happy anyway. ^This. A week ago, I thought that Steamworks was a one-time online activation; I learned otherwise after reading up around here. I'm keeping my pre-order for a hard copy at Gamestop despite the Steam requirement, but it troubles me how much Bethesda's decision for Steamworks upsets the PC gaming populace. I worry this may tarnish the release of an otherwise epic game. Is there a significant benefit for the constant-authentication provided by the Steam application, compared to an initial online activation that can only be validated through Steamworks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIROryuu Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Is there a significant benefit for the constant-authentication provided by the Steam application, compared to an initial online activation that can only be validated through Steamworks?It's just policing honest fans sadly. It doesn't effect piracy or people who will crack the game. I'll buy both a 360 and PC copy but I may end up cracking it so I can play the game. I often use no cd cracks as well. Just to keep my original disks available for future use, as most often even the disk drive will cause surface damage to a disk. I'm against piracy, but I'm against this as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowk Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Agreed. There has to be a happy medium, but I think we'll have to wait a while before reason overcomes the current overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 It's called not tying Steamworks into the Steam app. I have no problem with either on their own. Steam itself should be optional, Steamworks as an online authentication DRM is acceptable. This way EVERYONE is happy. Even the pirates. Who are happy anyway.Is there a significant benefit for the constant-authentication provided by the Steam application, compared to an initial online activation that can only be validated through Steamworks?Well you have the in-game overlay steam provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIROryuu Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I'll put my thoughts like this. Skyrim being a food. It tastes really good but... It fell in the dirt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amycus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) Just admint it you pirate all your games, if pirate one game why buy games at all? Agreed. The whole issue is caused by the piracy in the first place.http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/791728635_VJ8Qa-L.jpg Don't like the DRM? Complain, make your voice heard, and don't buy it (or at least wait for a while so that you aren't increasing the preorder and initial sales). EDIT: Oops, when I clicked this thread it took me directly to page 8. Didn't notice until now that there were even more pages... Edited August 21, 2011 by amycus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Relevant: http://i.imgur.com/ct0am.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowk Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I agree wholeheartedly. Complaining about DRM, then pirating the game does not solve the problem. It makes it worse, and I would suspect is the reason for the current overly-restrictive implementations of DRM. This way the companies only see piracy persisting. If the same people were to hold off on buying the game and complain directly to the companies, then this is the trend they would see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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