Blood&Mud Problem

[nrot]

Last night I installed Blood&Mud, found here: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12016

 

But, instead of downloading it from TESNexus in the 5 parts it was uploaded in, I used one of the Author's listed mirrors for an OMOD version to save time. There was no readme, the OMOD was the only file, I installed it in OBMM and it showed up in red (mod conflict). I don't know how to find out in OBMM which mods conflict with which, or even if this is something OBMM reports, but I know sometimes things show up as a conflict but doesn't really cause an issue, so I decided to press forward and activate/install it.

 

I was prompted that the mod would need to overwrite files that were not associated with another OMOD.. I thought to myself if no other mod uses them it should be fine and accepted all the overwrites... not realizing that just because no other OMODS were using those files, didn't mean that a bash wasn't. (I was also very tired and didn't think to back up the files/folders :wallbash: ) Anyway, after installation/activation Oblivion would not run at all (hang with a black screen) and deactivating/uninstalling did not resolve the issue. Today (after giving up for the night) Oblivion will run again apparently without issue (memory corruption last night I'm guessing).

 

I still want to install and run Blood&Mud, so I've downloaded the files (the 5 files from TEXNexus this time) but am hesitant to attempt it due to the issue I had with the OMOD. I've read the readme, but am still less than confident, and was hoping someone here might have experience with B&M and might be able to offer some additional insight/suggestions not found in the readme.

 

Active Mod Files (in case it matters):

 

00  Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 47867C56]
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: 2D78AA91]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: DFD4FB97]
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73] [CRC: 7C04DAFB]
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D909483]
07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 8899BA8D]
08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35] [CRC: BCF36F0D]
09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 86C8B7A8]
0A  CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3]
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.7] [CRC: 6AB8F177]
0C  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9]
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: F6C1D21D]
0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [CRC: 45BD7EF9]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [CRC: 4F003DB0]
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [CRC: BEA456A9]
12  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [CRC: 36DF7A6E]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A27190A9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F]
13  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D]
14  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp [CRC: 4DC9FD95]
15  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 0C2B2233]
16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: FA38076A]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8198FCB1]
17  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1] [CRC: 1464E3CC]
18  Better Bell Sounds.esp [CRC: DBF0A1F2]
++  Symphony of Violence.esp [CRC: EDFF56A7]
19  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3]
1A  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 544AC04C]
1B  IlluminationWithout.esp [CRC: 451931B5]
1C  ChaseCameraMod.esp [CRC: C99150E1]
1D  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp [CRC: 06910C69]
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76] [CRC: A17792E6]
1E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.2] [CRC: D72B3C40]
1F  Streamline 3.1.esp [CRC: 25C25D60]
20  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.1] [CRC: 00BC8073]
21  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5] [CRC: 2B08755B]
22  DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D]
23  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 00F74B09]
24  DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4]
25  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 9AA76E38]
26  DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F]
27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 5B9FF91B]
28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740]
29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: FF57D0F8]
2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8]
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1]
2B  CapesandCloaks.esp [CRC: 0C16BC78]
2C  Thieves Arsenal.esp [CRC: 2DE5B6D1]
2D  DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC]
2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: 401934BE]
++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta] [CRC: AB46B220]
2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73] [CRC: 9FA7EEF9]
30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63] [CRC: 8260DFCF]
31  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [CRC: DE136AF6]
32  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5A017B08]
33  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp [CRC: D82849FE]
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: C7E2EFAC]
34  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09] [CRC: 4F32343B]
35  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5] [CRC: 4B541396]
36  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935]
37  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp [CRC: 22975E58]
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0] [CRC: 6F998DD2]
38  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35] [CRC: 74D0F883]
39  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 10345C67]
3A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: 711706C0]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2] [CRC: F03C2087]
3B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 48DD0D8A]
++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A90C5DFC]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: C4599A53]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 17C0D829]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 6D39E4C7]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 06F72FF2]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 54A8D198]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 6025C7D0]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: F5EE4316]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f] [CRC: 5FDE93E5]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D26D847]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 4E21A9ED]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: ACBB13AD]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5C5585E0]
++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 17F87DA1]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 21EC43A1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 9019F72A]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01] [CRC: 7FE9F55D]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35] [CRC: 9330907E]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73] [CRC: 9478B271]
44  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 3D5A25D1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 1FD522A4]
45  Enchanting and Spell Making Altars.esp [CRC: F9AC1842]
46  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 7048C609]
47  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: AB4DE79A]
48  DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB]
49  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 5744D6B8]
4A  Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]
4B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 2F15B12C]
**  DLC_MOBS.esp [CRC: DEB4C4C9]
4C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: E4955199]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: A982ADDD]
4D  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02] [CRC: 621A4412]
4E  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756]
4F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp [CRC: DC2B0A47]
50  RealisticForceMedium.esp [CRC: 277BD021]
51  Smite of Order.esp [CRC: 2D483627]
52  MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 1FB27B78]
53  RenGuardOverhaul.esp [CRC: 6FFE50F4]
++  DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp [CRC: 9FDF7EDD]
++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76] [CRC: EE92EE70]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76] [CRC: 1076BEF1]
54  CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C]
55  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp [CRC: CFCE92CF]
56  CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: ACB522AC]
57  CM Partners More NPCs.esp [CRC: 49C3BCE9]
58  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp [CRC: E7224ABB]
59  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 9EBE1E58]
++  AMB.esp [CRC: 0A7FF55B]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: DB4F2048]
5A  No More Annoying Messages.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 975E4BA4]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8565EC88]
5B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: F9D4ABE2]

 

 

 

Sorry for the long explanation/rant. :hurr:

[Keirgarth]

When installing mods, especially mods that cause issues at times I always use Wrye Bash and BOSS to get things sorted before I start Oblivion. If your Wrye Bash is setup correctly and your BOSS is as well, there will be a little button at the bottom of the window in Wrye Bash that says BOSS that you can run from there. Once BOSS sorts, then look at the suggestions for bashing listed on the lower right by clicking on the name of the esp or esm you are trying to install, in this case B&M. Then bash your patch to match those suggestions.