nrot Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Within Blood&Mud I've come across at least 2 NPC's which don't have any speech options at all, not even the 'rumors' default option, nor the gold graphic bar on the left that lists options, nor do I have the engage in speechcraft option, only the name of the NPC and the "X" icon appear, every time. I've followed the install guide, used wryebash and BOSS for sorting, re-patched the bash, and rebooted my PC, nothing has worked. Other areas of the mod seem to be working (the city is updated, most NPC's talk to me normally, no CTD, etc.) The readme only list one mod that causes issues and doesn't have a patch, which is a transportation mod, which I do not have installed. When I repatched my bash I checked every option for B&M compatibility. Any ideas as to what I can do to fix it? Here is my load order if it helps.. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5] 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 47867C56] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: 2D78AA91] 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: DFD4FB97] 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73] [CRC: 7C04DAFB] 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4] 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D909483] 07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] [CRC: 8899BA8D] 08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] [CRC: BCF36F0D] 09 MD_Saddle_Master.esm [CRC: 61FB2F26] 0A Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] [CRC: 86C8B7A8] 0B BetterMusicSystem.esm [CRC: 0C923D61] 0C CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3] 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.7] [CRC: 6AB8F177] 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9] 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977] 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: F6C1D21D] 11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [CRC: 45BD7EF9] 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [CRC: 4F003DB0] 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [CRC: BEA456A9] 14 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [CRC: 36DF7A6E] ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A27190A9] ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F] 15 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D] 16 Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp [CRC: 4DC9FD95] 17 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 0C2B2233] 18 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: FA38076A] ++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8198FCB1] 19 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] [CRC: 1464E3CC] 1A Better Bell Sounds.esp [CRC: DBF0A1F2] ++ Symphony of Violence.esp [CRC: EDFF56A7] 1B PCSoundGarrett.esp [Version 2.6] [CRC: 80C97F4C] 1C Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3] 1D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 544AC04C] 1E IlluminationWithout.esp [CRC: 451931B5] 1F AliveWaters.esp [CRC: 0717BF5A] 20 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: 47A85077] 21 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: FA521F62] 22 ChaseCameraMod.esp [CRC: C99150E1] 23 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp [CRC: 06910C69] ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: A17792E6] 24 More Effective Enchantments.esp [CRC: 37DE8779] 25 Portable Campsite.esp [CRC: EDD4B869] 26 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7] [CRC: D85ED0D8] 27 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.2] [CRC: D72B3C40] 28 Get Wet.esp [CRC: 55117752] 29 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2] [CRC: 3C280B7A] 2A Streamline 3.1.esp [CRC: 25C25D60] 2B Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.1] [CRC: 00BC8073] 2C Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5] [CRC: 2B08755B] 2D sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54] [CRC: 631AB364] 2E DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D] 2F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 00F74B09] 30 DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4] 31 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 9AA76E38] 32 DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F] 33 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 5B9FF91B] 34 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740] 35 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: FF57D0F8] 36 DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8] ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1] 37 CapesandCloaks.esp [CRC: 0C16BC78] 38 Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp [CRC: E26190E5] 39 Thieves Arsenal.esp [CRC: 2DE5B6D1] 3A Dude Wheres My Horse.esp [CRC: 2B8B2341] 3B MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp [CRC: A2B5A83D] 3C HRMHorseCommands.esp [CRC: 74071327] 3D DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC] 3E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: 401934BE] ++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta] [CRC: AB46B220] 3F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] [CRC: 9FA7EEF9] 40 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] [CRC: 8260DFCF] 41 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [CRC: DE136AF6] 42 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5A017B08] 43 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp [CRC: D82849FE] ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: C7E2EFAC] 44 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09] [CRC: 4F32343B] 45 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5] [CRC: 4B541396] 46 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935] 47 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp [CRC: 22975E58] ** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0] [CRC: 6F998DD2] 48 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] [CRC: 74D0F883] 49 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] [CRC: 10345C67] 4A FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: 711706C0] ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] [CRC: F03C2087] 4B FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654] 4C Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 48DD0D8A] ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A90C5DFC] 4D Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: C4599A53] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 17C0D829] 4E Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 6D39E4C7] 4F Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 06F72FF2] 50 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 54A8D198] 51 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 6025C7D0] 52 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: F5EE4316] 53 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] [CRC: 5FDE93E5] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D26D847] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 4E21A9ED] ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: ACBB13AD] ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5C5585E0] ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 17F87DA1] ** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 21EC43A1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 9019F72A] ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] [CRC: 7FE9F55D] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] [CRC: 9330907E] ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73] [CRC: 9478B271] 54 Trade and Commerce.esp [CRC: 955A7549] 55 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 3D5A25D1] ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 1FD522A4] 56 Enchanting and Spell Making Altars.esp [CRC: F9AC1842] 57 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 7048C609] 58 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: AB4DE79A] 59 DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB] 5A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 5744D6B8] 5B Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA] 5C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 2F15B12C] 5D SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30] [CRC: 0DE2D83B] ** DLC_MOBS.esp [CRC: DEB4C4C9] 5E Blood&Mud.esp [CRC: 23A62955] ** Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2] [CRC: 8BC3D664] 5F Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: E4955199] ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] [CRC: A982ADDD] 60 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: B948EAE3] 61 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: FEC083A9] 62 xulTheHeath.esp [CRC: ADDF5F66] 63 XulEntiusGorge.esp [CRC: A900F10A] 64 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: EF98D162] 65 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] [CRC: 9C5A7A05] 66 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: E70A54FC] 67 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] [CRC: 64B503C9] 68 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 750D0226] 69 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 1E045FF7] 6A xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] [CRC: 98F220FA] 6B xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] [CRC: E541D578] 6C xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 75E2FD36] 6D xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] [CRC: DF776E3A] 6E xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: FAEC8265] 6F xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: 8C1CDE06] 70 xulPantherRiver.esp [CRC: AD0A3B5E] 71 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 52A9819F] 72 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 9302AD30] 73 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7] [CRC: 17BE191B] 74 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] [CRC: C1C3E5FA] 75 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 5FAB540B] 76 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 599BB21F] 77 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: DABED778] 78 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 478C8B3E] 79 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] [CRC: 701EF543] 7A xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 321351F1] 7B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: FA700811] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 05003A29] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 4C040612] 7C Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: ADFEEDB5] 7D AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02] [CRC: 621A4412] 7E HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.4.2] [CRC: B56DEDF3] 7F P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756] 80 Quest Award Leveller.esp [CRC: 22C2F3DA] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp [CRC: EF5357D7] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [CRC: 0CB1E3BF] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [CRC: 7EDD4CD5] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [CRC: 6A69791E] 81 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp [CRC: DC2B0A47] 82 RealisticFatigue.esp [CRC: FF804F18] 83 RealisticHealth.esp [CRC: D70D9601] 84 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 4.8] [CRC: C997A825] 85 RealisticForceMedium.esp [CRC: 277BD021] 86 Smite of Order.esp [CRC: 2D483627] 87 Bag of Alchemy Rewrite.esp [CRC: EA2B3B79] 88 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] [CRC: E17F6184] 89 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: FA560808] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: D8BF78E7] ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 812F4410] ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: F97BDB3C] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 67F2D66F] 8A SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 95F3D5C4] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 0FD90101] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] [CRC: 6D793919] 8B MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 1FB27B78] 8C RenGuardOverhaul.esp [CRC: 6FFE50F4] 8D RealisticLeveling.esp [CRC: 2C7EBE5D] ++ DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp [CRC: 9FDF7EDD] ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: EE92EE70] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76] [CRC: 1076BEF1] 8E CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C] 8F CM Partners Special NPCs.esp [CRC: CFCE92CF] 90 CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: ACB522AC] 91 CM Partners More NPCs.esp [CRC: 49C3BCE9] 92 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp [CRC: E7224ABB] 93 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 9EBE1E58] ++ AMB.esp [CRC: 0A7FF55B] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: DB4F2048] 94 No More Annoying Messages.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: 975E4BA4] ** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82] ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8565EC88] 95 Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 870B5909] Also, I was hoping to find an English walk-through of the mod (in case I cannot get those NPC's to speak normally with me, to verify if those silent NPC's are quest essential, I don't want to start only to reach a dead end later that I cannot fix). I have searched google and youtube high and low and the only walkthroughs I have found were in German... and I'd rather not rely on something as iffy as bablefish for an explanation. ... Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrot Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 I came across one other NPC outside of Bravil who showed the same weird speech behavior, wish I could remember where and who. Anyone else experience this, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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