worm82075 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 You are absolutely correct. You are being reasonable. I think it's disgusting and must be abolished, but considering the fact that Oblivion is an "M" game, I doubt the mods or the people really care. Truthfully, they are absolutely pointless. I like companion mods, but not when they look like a bunch of whores. If perverts want porn, go watch it somewheres else. Don't make it in our video-game. It's a royal pain in the behind to find weapons, armors, and companions because half of them are sick. You people should rethink your lives a bit. Seriously. What would your mothers or fathers or brothers or sisters think of you? What do you think we sane people think of you? What would the guy upstairs think of you? What would I think of you? I think you see my point. Oh yeah, and just so you know, once I get the drift of editing and creating meshes from scratch OR texturing, for that matter: IF YOU TAKE MY WORK AND TURN IT INTO SOME PERVERTED TYPE OF OBLIVION PORN OR FETISH CLOTHING, I WILL RIP YOU APART AND COMPLAIN TO MODERATORS FOR YOU RIPPING MY WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION. I WILL MAKE SURE YOU ARE BANNED. Sure, people back themselves up by saying "If you don't like it, don't download it" and "They just look pretty", but we (including those people) all know that you guys just get those mods for the large breasts. I'm a guy, but I'm a modest guy who likes modest and intelligent women, and I always was and always will be above the need for porn or anything sexually oriented. I don't need fantasies of women to come true. I don't need to watch stupid people get it on with each other so I could start touching myself in an inappropriate way. If you think the female body is pretty, why don't you admire a REAL girl, in an appropriate fashion? Can't you just look at them, instead of spamming a bunch of perverted clothing in the Weapons/Armor section, so that I could find some cool equipment easier? Can't you go ONE DAY without looking at a virtual private-part and getting the urge to touch yourself? For those of you who say you can but really can't, I feel bad for you. I hope this teaches you mentally ill people a lesson. If you think masturbation is inappropriate and that the natural urges of men (especially pubesant ones) has any thing to do with mental illness then I'm afraid that in my opinion you are the one that is ill. The thought that young men in this world would suppress such releases of ever building testosterone is a scary one. It is my belief (and therefor undebatable) that the majority of people that claim to avoid pornography,nudity and masturbation for moral reasons are being untruthful. The small percentage of those that are being honest are simply adding to the pool of repressed rage building up on this planet. All of my above statements are MY opinion and i am entitled to them. You do not have to agree with them and i have not implied that you do, simply by stating that it is in fact my opinion. Having been here for awhile I think that your statements could be construed by some (me being one of them) as offensive because you did not state clearly that is was just your opinion and your closing sentence proposing to teach a lesson is far from being accepting of others opinions. I would like to rant and rave about this but I will simply leave you with some song lyrics to convey my thoughts in a more civil manner. Biohazard - Shades of GreyI make now a stand for belief that I'm steadfastIn hating all of the bulls**t you give me about my future, present and pastWho are you to infringe your values upon me, I've learned the hard wayStepping on my toes, you've put my back to the wall, my back to the wallI've been told a thousand times to give respect when dueWhy do you find it so hard to believe I've got none for youIt's my heart and my mind that I'll always follow, I will not breakNor will my balls, although that I've seen that you've tried beforeWhy are people fake ? Maybe you're older, wiser in your own right, it's your mistakeI'm gonna do my own thing regardless, my choice to makeI am real, in touch with my feelings, and I know my placeYou have shown, on the other hand, both sides of your faceI see the world in a different lightThings not always black and whiteThrough all these years still, to this dayMy hardened eyes see only shades of grey I would never try and tell you what was right from wrongMaybe that's why you feel that I don't belongAlways put me down for things I've said and doneCan't you see it's a war that can't be won Now if you choose not to respect my opinion and and the opinions of others on this site and continue to push your beliefs and opinions on the rest of us I WILL SEE TO IT THAT YOU ARE BANNED. Copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadnerzhul Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I understand your meaning, and I will respectfully submit. But as you are entitled to your opinion, I am as well. Otherwise, it would not be fair. Anyways... I DO believe masturbation is inappropriate, and that people could resist the urges. Why and how, you might ask? Self control. You are in control of yourself. You don't need to succumb to "natural" urges. This is my opinion, that everyone is in control of themselves, their personalities, and their behavior. I humbly submit my opinion, while at the same time respecting yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worm82075 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I understand your meaning, and I will respectfully submit. But as you are entitled to your opinion, I am as well. Otherwise, it would not be fair. Anyways... I DO believe masturbation is inappropriate, and that people could resist the urges. Why and how, you might ask? Self control. You are in control of yourself. You don't need to succumb to "natural" urges. This is my opinion, that everyone is in control of themselves, their personalities, and their behavior. I humbly submit my opinion, while at the same time respecting yours. Excellent, I respect your point of view as well and in fact I value it. Given your immediate recognition of what i was trying to say and your forthcoming respect for my opinion as well as others makes you more than worthy of membership here and regardless of your views or beliefs I am glad you are here. Thanks for being that and thank you for sharing yet another of our communities diverse outlooks on life. That is one of the things that makes this site great. Even though our opinions differ greatly on this subject I shall always defend your right to express yours. Respectfully,Your fellow Nexus member, Jeremy aka Worm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadnerzhul Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Curious I am as to what you meant by "our communities diverse outlooks on life". Worm, I am glad that you respect my opinion, and I am more than happy to respect yours. Although we may not agree, we could do just that as respectful and civil people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Slyther Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 deadnerzhul, I caught your attack against my roleplay info on the other thread afterhand. Jojo man has informed me of your assault, and I will NOT tolerate my files being attacked just because it has guns, or you have no idea how much you're going to rip yourself apart. You think you can obviously go against everyone and think you're powerful to 'rip' someone apart. And you're trying to manipulate the moderators into going by your side. You think they're gonna serve you? Let me put it bluntly. You are NOT the admin of this site. You have no idea how little patience I have with you saying guns in a medieval game is stupid, because if I catch a low rating on one of my files just because it doesn't suit the game, I WILL report your ass. You're perfectly ok with saying your personal opinions, we all respect that, but we don't want to hear it! Period. You're making an ass of yourself. This is our forum of freedom! We can do whatever. And let me tell you something. If you think men are sick just because they take interest in women, then obviously, you're ****ed up. You're gonna see a lot of things you don't like seeing on here whether you like it or not. Personally, I noticed what your responses are on here, and I don't think anyone wants you on here if all you do is whine and complain to others because you think some people are 'perverts'. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking women, or dating. That is completely normal. One thing that's sick is abusing women or simply put 'raping' women. Nobody wants to hear your story, and I sure as hell don't wanna hear it either. I have a few Exnem mods and other sorts, but if you think I'm obviously a 'pervert' just because I have mods that show women casual and sexually, then your mind is so fried and brain dead. You're not normal. Get help. THAT is why there is adult content feature that prevents children from seeing naked women. It can be used on mods that include sexual content. We respect your opinions and all, but you obviously proved you don't respect ours. We won't use your content and modify it, but we won't be pushed around by you, or I WON'T HESITATE TO REPORT YOU. You understand me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rendalli Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 heh you forgot the rules of any RPG pen and paper or computer. male = the more ya wear the better your protectionfemale = the less ya wear the better your protection common rule of thumb lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGTBOB Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 All right All right i think this ultimatly will show the truth behind all these guys commentslets start with how this all startedsex sells and in video games ever since tomb raider game developers have been fueling the fire of fantasys of women because just as in real life a guy will do anything to get that girl so is it when all you have to do is beat the game(but first buy it)at least half the people who play DOA or tomb raider hate the game and just wanna beat it in hopes of seeing some cleavagethen modders who all along wanted to finnaly see lara croft naked finnaly thought"lets just modify the game so she is and stop with these freaking teases"then this idea spread to practicaly all games that had hot chicks in themgames dont want to give the idea that this is the real way women are its all just business i mean how many people would go to a school car wash if it was a bunch of nasty fat chicks so ultimatly game studios set too many teasers and players wanted to have thier fantasys seem more real and for all you saying "i just like to see the beauty in women"GIVE ME A BREAK theres no such thing as just wanting to survey thier genitals because its a form of artyour all just covering up for your wet sticky pants :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo man Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 and for all you saying "i just like to see the beauty in women"GIVE ME A BREAK theres no such thing as just wanting to survey thier genitals because its a form of artyour all just covering up for your wet sticky pants :pinch:Okay I've gotta disagree there. This isn't just about nudity, It's about portraying women in a sexy manner. And (I admit it's perfectly possible that I may have missed something in the thread) I don't think anyone has refered to the nudity as art. But if we're talking about some of the uploaded screenshots in the gallery....if the shot-taker took the image and shared it in order to show creativity or spread what they viewed as beauty, then it is art(Regardless of wether or not they succeeded in your mind or mine, or anyones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGTBOB Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Well let me restate it this way i think that what drives these men is hormones(or pheramones) not the left side of the brain(your artistic side)i mean think of all the beauty pagents and female art magazinesi have yet to see them portrayed as "art" in MODEST clothingskimpy=artmodest=some abercrombie and fitch catalogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo man Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Well let me restate it this way i think that what drives these men is hormones(or pheramones) not the left side of the brain(your artistic side)i mean think of all the beauty pagents and female art magazinesi have yet to see them portrayed as "art" in MODEST clothingskimpy=artmodest=some abercrombie and fitch catalogueI see your point about what motivates some of the uploaders, but who are we really to say? You could be right, I could be right, We may both be partially right, we may both be completely wrong.....But until we crawl in their head and see for ourselves or they tell us, how will we truly know what motivates them? As for magazine adds...I don't know if it's really correct to hold them to the same context as art.(Like comparing apples and oranges) Remember, advertisements are there to sell things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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