Game freeze...

[GrindedStone]

You don't need all those stupid mods?

Okay load the whole load order up with FNV edit.

Right click the left window, an apply filter.

 

Only checkmark these 6

 

at the top left

 

*by conflict status overall (thats the background color)

*Conflict

*Critical Conflict

 

at the bottom

 

*conflict status inherited by parent

*flatten cell children

*flatten blocks/sub-blocks

 

 

Then hit Filter, an wait about 3 minutes or so, till it finishes. Now look at all this red an purple. It would take you 40-80 hours to fix these. You wouldn't get to play the game durring that 40-80 hours, and it's success would be based entirely off how much you know about this kind of data. For example everything about how to create mods would come in handy. In either case it isn't worth fixing. You could be playing games durring that time. Fallout 3 an Fallout New Vegas are huge games. The truth is that they don't even need a whole lot of mods. Greed gets the better of people an it also breaks the game, lol. There's a point where you have added more content than you can actually notice, enjoy, or even use at all. You want to avoid that. Install mods one at a time, test out what they add, if you don't like it, then you know not to install that one next time.

[HSneak]

it seems to work... i mean when i started a new char i could play without freezes...

after that i notcied 2 other things :D

First is that my old quicksave game is 8 Mo the new one is 2 Mo i wonder if i can ... Purge the save (for exemple remove dead bodies or remove objects places .. things like that)

Second, i noticed that the ...... dry grass bowls ( the western rolling dry grass ) are static in my old save (it's impossible to move them), perhaps it have something to do with world objects or havoc and cache ? (i rly dunno it's just suppositions)

the question now is how to purge the game... like a reset of all world objects, perhaps it will get rid of freezes (i'm pretty sure that will fix all the problems, but is it possible ?)

 

by the way i personally think that the funniest part of playing FNV is the mods, i really enjoy adding new mods everytime to get THE perfect game (in my opinion).. and i didn't added all the mods in 1 time. (i never had problems like this one in fallout 3, i could even reach the mod limit, after which, the game started to get buggy [missing textures and meshes ^^] and i never had freezes like theses)

thx again Grinded for the tips :thumbsup:

[GrindedStone]

First is that my old quicksave game is 8 Mo the new one is 2 Mo i wonder if i can ... Purge the save (for exemple remove dead bodies or remove objects places .. things like that)

 

Sounds like yet another reason not to use autosave, quicksave, or use the continue button, as well as avoiding overwriting any save games. Though most people were encouraged to not use these features just from the fact that it promotes coruption over the long term, thus making a save game cause weird random issues, crashing, an rendering that 100 hour play through useless. In practice old timers will press Esc each time, then create a new save game each time. You end up with 100's of saves. This avoids overwriting, but also allows backup copies of the playthrough. So at 100 hours if it goes corupt, You can roll back to 99 hours for example. You can also exit the game an restart it every 4 hours, an reboot the computer every 8 hours if you wanted to promote cache purging for anti-coruption purposes.

 

 

 

 

Second, i noticed that the ...... dry grass bowls ( the western rolling dry grass ) are static in my old save (it's impossible to move them), perhaps it have something to do with world objects or havoc and cache ? (i rly dunno it's just suppositions) the question now is how to purge the game... like a reset of all world objects, perhaps it will get rid of freezes (i'm pretty sure that will fix all the problems, but is it possible ?)

 

Tubbleweeds I reckon. Some are static, like the one at Novac. All of them being static is a glitch, a partial coruption of the save game. Noted by it being filed under "werid random issues" though this form of coruption is the mildest form you will see, and in some cases will fix itself. However like you said it's advantageous to purge or reset this, which the only way to really do that is to start a new game. It's also good practice to do this anytime you make a major change to the game or load order. Most of the value of these games is in the ability to replay with a totally different character build, so it's not a big deal. I played Fallout 3 for over 3 years by the one death rule. Start the game an play until the character got killed. I never got past 25% of the main quest, lol, but it was fun as a playthrough.

[HSneak]

yup that's it, i think i'm gonna replay the game with a new char, avoid overwriting savegames i hope i won't get this problem again...

last questions :

1- is there a mod that create a new savegame every X minuts (i remember a mod in oblivion... but forgot its name)

2- in my old save (the buggy one) i used to open every metal crate and other boxes, even in exterior... so i wonder if avoid doing this would help preserve the cache and consequently avoid crashes and freezes.

 

thank you very much GrindedStone for your support, kudos for you mate ^^

[jt70ss454]

The program you are referring to is CASM_NV. It saves based on criteria you set up.

[GrindedStone]

2- in my old save (the buggy one) i used to open every metal crate and other boxes, even in exterior... so i wonder if avoid doing this would help preserve the cache and consequently avoid crashes and freezes.

 

 

It was buggy, crashy, an freezy because it was a long list of dirty untested mods.

Build 90 more seperate load orders over the next 3 years an you'll figure it out.

There are tools an choices which effect the quality of the build you make.

But, time is the best plan, build it slowly over time, those last longer.

 

Also at times over the years, there have been a few massive grapical lag spikes.

If you wait a minute or two sometimes, the game will catch back up.

It seems just like a system freeze but it's only massive grapical lag.

Next time it locks up, don't touch anything for a minute or two.

[SuperSledgeNY]

I've read this thread with great interest and after seeing that you're running WinXP with an nVidia card, I'm wondering does your screen flicker a bit just before your game freezes? If so, you might be a victim of the dreaded nVidia "infinite loop" problem. I'm speaking from experience since my game used to freeze just after the screen flickered. Sometimes I could play for hours with no problems and other times I'd freeze up after a few minutes. If you google "nvidia infinite loop", you'll see that this problem has been around since 2002 and has not been addressed by nVidia or Microsoft. There are literally hundreds of "fixes" out there but its mostly hit or miss. I sincerely hope your problem is something OTHER than this but if it isn't, you're in for a long frustrating ride. By the way, the only surefire fix to this problem is getting an ATI card.

[PowderdToastMan]

Are you using FNV 4gb?

 

The default fallout new vegas will only allow up to two gigs of ram to be used and reserved for use in the game regardless of how many mods you have. If you use lots of mods, you will hit that two gig limit fairly often and will cause ctd's.

 

IF you want to use it and use nvse install in this order:

 

First mae sure you have the latest version of nvse installed here: http://nvse.silverlock.org/

 

Then install FNV-4gb here: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35262 Mae sure you place it in your New Vegas folder and not your Data Folder!

 

Then Go bac to here: http://nvse.silverlock.org/ and scroll to the bottom to where it says alternate loader and Download it. Then install it in your new vegas folder. When ased to overrite say yes. Create a shortcut of the 4gb application and place the shortcut on your destop and run from there. This will cure any ctd's caused by this problem.

 

on rare occasions, some weird game enhancers that people have made can cause 4gb to not wor , but ive only heard of it once. IF you thin there might be that potential, mae sure you have a save game outside in a vanilla area, in case you need to re-install.

[PowderdToastMan]

And i would get rid of the - bettergamepreformancev4, but thats just my opinion.

 

also, download the configator here: it will help with game preformance: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=40442 , and mae sure to bump up the havo threads to the number of cores you have.

 

the configator gives you the ability to dump the cache on load too.

[HSneak]

@SuperSledgeNY : i'm not having stutters before freezes (quite sure about it, i play normally then *PUF* freeze).

@PowderdToastMan : i tried fnv 4gb, but i don't use it because i have a 32bit operating system (gonna change soon to Win 7) so i thought it would be useless for now, but after what you said, i'm gonna re-use it... about bettergamepreformancev4, i had deadly stutters of death, lags, fps drops (call it whatever you want) without it, simple the game is UNPLAYABLE without it (never removed it since i started using it), btw thanks for the help and the configurator seems to be a good tool ^^

 

For information i restarted the game (removed some (a 'lil) mods) and actually i have no problems at all (except rarely a ctd...which would be fixed by fnv-4gb).

again thnx all for the help :thumbsup:

Edited September 16, 2011 by HSneak