madd_6233 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Hello everyone. I have a problem regarding OBSE, mainly my game won't start up. First of all, I've been away from the game for about a year, and then I noticed that there is a new version of OBSE, so I download it to play UV Part 2, which is far surpasses it's predecessor, in my opinion. And then the nightmare began. I changed the old OBSE with the new one, and downloaded the necessary mods that UV required, and then, the game won't even start. I got two ticks (2 black screens), and then nothing, as if I'm missing something. I spend days trying to figure out this problem, without resorting to re-installing the game, because of FCOM's installation is time consuming, and tiring. Here are my list of mods : Oblivion.esmWindfall.esmAll Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmArmamentarium.esmArtifacts.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmCM Partners.esmAGC-TARDISv5mstr.esmHrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.espCobl Races TNR.espCobl Races TNR SI.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espIWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.espAkatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.espChaseCameraMod.espES4_Alchemists Reference.espGuide Books.espItem interchange - Extraction.espMore Effective Enchantments.espMy Voice Extender.espDisplay Stats.espStreamline 3.1.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espAndragorn_Weapons_Armors.esparme - excalibur.espDMCWeapons.espKohdiScimitar.espMODArnTemplar.espMHSN Weapons.esppale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.espPTArtifacts.espShdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.espSK_Berserk_v0.6.espslayersword.espSlof's Boners! v5.espDarkWindarmor1.espR18PN - Bs Bondage.espR18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espFrancesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.espFrancesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.espFrancesco's Optional House Chest Loot.espFrancesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Quests.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Arena.espExnemRuneskulls.espFCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOOO-No_Guild_Ownership.espOOO-DLT_Remover.espArmamentariumLL.espArmamentariumLLVendors.espArmamentariumLLMagic.espArmamentariumArtifacts.espArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espHemingweys NPC Capes for OOO and FCOM.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.espFCOM_RealSwords.espFCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.espFCOM_SaferRoads.espFCOM_LessRats.espFCOM_LessReaversInGates.espMart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.espMart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.espMart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.espFCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.espFCOM_BobsGuardUnity.espFCOM_HungersUnitySI.espFCOM_FriendlierFactions.espFCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.espFCOM_MoreRandomItems.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espArmamentariumLL4OOO.espArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.espMMM-Cobl.espNightshade_Armor.espKnightlyArmory.espImperial Furniture Renovated.espArtifacts.espArtifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.espAuriel's_Retreat.espBladeOfTheHaunted.espFenrirTheWolf.espGP_Moretta.espICEGHouse_cobl.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.espKvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.espScarletMonastery.espShadowfangKeep.espSnow Dragon Temple v1.0.espThe Ayleid Steps.espVampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.espWindfall.espFrbitTravel.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espThe Lost Spires.espAFK_Weye.espMannimarcoRevisited.espMannimarcoRevisitedOOO.espMannimarcoWardrobeChest.espFCOM_Knights.espElsweyrAnequina.espElsweyrAnequinaNoSpiders.espCelestiel - EV.espMillstone_Farm_COBL.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espBag of Holding.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espP1DkeyChain.espTweakAthleticsNoSpeed.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espConduitMagic.espSetEssentialActors.espTelekinetic Mastery.espAdvanced Magecraft.espSupremeMagicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_OOO.espSM_MMM.espSM_COBL.espSM_VanillaSpells.espSM_Scrolls.espSM_SigilStone.espMidasSpells.espSM Combat Hide.espEnhanced Grabbing.espUnequip Broken Armor.espOblivion XP.espOOO-Level_Stock.espCTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).espCTAddPose_gobu.espCTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.espItem interchange - Placement for FCOM.espCM Partners.espMoonshadow Elves - NoSc.espDesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.espCM Partners NPC.espCM Partners Extra NPCs.espAsharasCMBeasts.espkgt_Avve.espDAGimli.espDAMeridiaKatrina.espCobl Races.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espMart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.espbgMagicEV.espbgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.espFrancesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.espbgMagicEVShader.espFCOM_Archery.espHemingweys Capes.espOOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.espDeadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.espSM_DeadlyReflex.espCobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.espAll Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.espBashed Patch, 0.espUnlimited Weapon Recharge.espNo Ghostly Apparition.espAGC-TARDISv5plgn.espDoomHammerV2.0.espBooks of Oblivion.espHemingweys Barrel O Capes.espFCOM_Enchantments.espR18PN - Der tod Armor.espTona's_ModsStore.espAyame Kunoichi.espLootToGold.espUVII.esp I understand that these kind of topics are plenty in number already, but I need advice from pro mod player to look at my mods. Or maybe it was one of the OBSE plugin's fault. At any rate, I would appreciate it greatly, if you could give me a solution or two. Thank you for your attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MShoap13 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 This kind of crash is usually due to a missing master or a missing resource (such as a font or video file). First, check that you have in fact installed all of the necessary requirements and that they're ticked to run. Second, run BOSS and make sure that it has access to the online masterlist. Third, if you're using Wrye Bash be sure you've updated your bashed patch. If all of this fails, you can try renaming your Oblivion.ini so that the game will create a new one. It could also be that you're using an older mod that is no longer compatible with the newest version of OBSE. As OBSE is updated, it breaks some of the older features, and mods need to be updated as well. Typically, this would result in simply breaking the mod, but I see no reason to rule it out as a possible cause for CTD on startup. Generally anything calling for v0017 or greater hasn't given me any trouble with v0020 so start with mods that ask for v0016 or older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 On 9/29/2011 at 5:48 PM, MShoap13 said: This kind of crash is usually due to a missing master yes and the error is in the fcom install read again the special instructions for installing MMM this is made obvious by your load order having something that it should not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madd_6233 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yes, I've heard that this kind of crashes is caused by a missing master list, but I've already double check what mod that might be missing a master file. The thing is, before I change to v 20, everything worked fine. All OBSE based mods requires higher than v.17 to work. But just in case, I'll try to re-check them. And I'll probably try to make a new .ini file as well. As for FCOM, like I said before, the game ran just fine when I still use older version of OBSE, so I don't really see why it might be the cause. But if it really is causing me all this, I'll just have a fresh install after all, and try that other new overhaul mod instead. I'll post a reply once I tried messing up with it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MShoap13 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I'm pretty sure Fonger means you should have one of the MMM plugins merged into your bashed patch and not active. Never messed with FCOM or any of it's components so I can't really specify but... that's what readme's are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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