dazzerfong Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) I can tell you, from experience, that the whole 'no HD weapons' is absolute BS. I feared as much in the beginning, but it turns out it's all just rumours and conjectures. As far as my rifle goes, at least. If we're talking about something that uses absurd texture sizes (i.e. P99), I have no idea.It was the assumption based on knowledge of what PS4 & Xbox One's hardware is based on. PS4 GPU = custom AMD HD 7870, Xbox One GPU= Unique variant between AMD HD 7770 and HD 7790. Those GPUs are originally from early 2012. Not very powerful by today's PC standards, not at all. Compare the X1 GPU to Titan X(GTX 1080 is even better than the Titan X), Titan X has 5 times the data output in floating point operations over the Xbox's GPU. This is a nice mod! You've used it on Xbox One and it's the same as it is on Nexus?http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12238/?The truth is that something like this is possible(I didn't know for sure if it would be but this mod is living proof) on console only if the author is quite knowledgeable and can do a really good job optimizing his mod. This is an exceptional job, I'm genuinely surprised it was possible on the Xbox. 2048x2048 textures that are extremely well optimized, which is really difficult to do without significantly losing quality. An unskilled modder attempting to do this will either cause major lag(No compression, hogging resources) on Xbox or terrible visual quality(High compression but a poor visual result). Either way, running multiple mods of this caliber will probably cripple the performance on Xbox One. Long live the PC Master Race...and the console clowns, too, I guess.And snobs who are no different from so-called console clowns. Any perception of "higher financial status" is meaningless. If you want to actually create your own mods, you're going to need a good PC to do it so there's one great reason. Check out this build with RX 480, which will do 1080p with Fallout 4's max settings probably even at 60. Maybe even 1440p/30fps which is unbelievable for a $199 GPU. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pandaforest/saved/nVFMnQ. Only a $550 machine. I want the very best experience for Fallout 4 modding(+TES VI in the future) so it's worth it for me to buy a PC. I want 4K @ a reliable 60 fps even when using mods and possibly ENB so it's worth it for me to go for a GTX 1080, 6700k. I want to be able to add however many mods I want without reduced performance, 250+ like on Skyrim. Around US $2000-$2500 worth of parts doesn't seem unreasonable to me.Not with that CPU it's not........hahaha! I'm not sure what angle you're trying to go with here, so if you don't mind, I'd like you to elaborate. Anyway, that P99 has 4096x4096 for literally every part of the gun (the optional file, not talking about the main one). That's absurd for even a PC, let alone consoles. The normal version is fine for the Xbox One. That being said, there's literally no skill in choosing how much compression you use: the choice is even simpler now that we have BC7. In the past, you only had a choice between BC1/3 and uncompressed. Now, you can have the best of both worlds. Think about it like: you have 3 choices. BC1/3: 1/8 of uncompressed, horrible banding with darker textures. If you need alpha, then it jumps up to 1/4 of uncompressed.BC7: 1/4 of compressed, practically losslessUncompressed: well, uncompressed. That makes things easy to choose, yet people are still choosing BC1! For sake of brevity, here's my MK14 and its texture sizes (Xbox One version is identical to PC): Receiver: 2048x2048Chassis: 4096x2048Barrel: 2048x1024Flash/brake: 512x512Scope rail: 1024x1024Scope: 1024x1024 - 2048x1024 (depends)Stock: 2048x1024-2048x2048 (depends) I did practically s***-all optimisation on it (no LOD, only used mip-maps) and people weren't noting performance issues. Edited June 5, 2016 by dazzerfong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtomanga Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The current way we enjoy modding on the Nexus is in no need of refinement or altering. Therefore anything bethesda.net offers can only mean trouble. It can only be about taking control. And then it will only lead to paid mods rising it's ugly head again. All the ignorance is summed up in a little paragraph. Congratz on being part of the problem. I dont know can you really trust bethesda?they are as shady as they get and are doing there best to limits ppl to save there a$$there site is painfull to use and they rejacted almost all of my modsAnd with those lame restricting rulesI can hardly make/port anything worthwile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danneyo Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The current way we enjoy modding on the Nexus is in no need of refinement or altering. Therefore anything bethesda.net offers can only mean trouble. It can only be about taking control. And then it will only lead to paid mods rising it's ugly head again. All the ignorance is summed up in a little paragraph. Congratz on being part of the problem. I dont knowcan you really trust bethesda?they are as shady as they get and are doing there best to limits ppl to save there a$$there site is painfull to useand they rejacted almost all of my modsAnd with those lame restricting rulesI can hardly make/port anything worthwile So you feel personally victimized due to your content not meeting their standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtomanga Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) The current way we enjoy modding on the Nexus is in no need of refinement or altering. Therefore anything bethesda.net offers can only mean trouble. It can only be about taking control. And then it will only lead to paid mods rising it's ugly head again. All the ignorance is summed up in a little paragraph. Congratz on being part of the problem. I dont knowcan you really trust bethesda?they are as shady as they get and are doing there best to limits ppl to save there a$$there site is painfull to useand they rejacted almost all of my modsAnd with those lame restricting rulesI can hardly make/port anything worthwile So you feel personally victimized due to your content not meeting their standards? not really and i don't really see myself as victimized thoi have easier times here and at loverslab soo i can manage i don't really trust a big company like bethesda tampering with modding and not after the paid mods fiascoand i would appreciate them more if they were very specific with there random rules[soo my sexy bikini considered sexually explicit material?] how come they let something like the sexy lingerie on there site? and fixing there buggy broken mess of a site[it keeps logging me out and asks for my age every chance it gets]. Edited June 5, 2016 by gtomanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonofsarila Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) and fixing there buggy broken mess of a site[it keeps logging me out and asks for my age every chance it gets]. As far as I've gathered it's supposed to log you out daily, why I don't know. Why on earth it asks for your age while you are signed in I can't figure out either. Plus there's certain ways where I try to open a thread and the thread part of the page won't load. Those were issues I was already ignoring before things got out of hand. Edited June 5, 2016 by demonofsarila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KataPUMB Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 well... this isn't either a reasonable and non childish behaviour: https://mods.bethesda.net/#en/workshop/fallout4/mod-detail/1606554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) AAAAAAND now the console peasants are stealing your mods...Meanwhile Bethesda only supports Bethesda.net and doesn't give a damn about the Nexus. Oh they'll happily use you for your hard work but then let you get screwed without batting an eye.Think how much worse it will get when the SKYRIM remaster comes out with mod support on consoles... Edited June 8, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkarhon Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 AAAAAAND now the console peasants are stealing your mods... Meanwhile Bethesda only supports Bethesda.net and doesn't give a damn about the Nexus. Oh they'll happily use you for your hard work but then let you get screwed without batting an eye. Think how much worse it will get when the SKYRIM remaster comes out with mod support on consoles...God no..... If that ever happens Kiss good bye to the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartarsauce2 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I am your lord and saviour here to lead you out of this valley of the death of the delicate flowers of the modding community by the console pleb hordes...into the land of milk and honeyor somethingalso, it kind of solves a few other problems plaguing the modding community and even alleviates the issue between paid and hobbyist moddinghttps://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/4487595-ddp-my-mods-are-down-commence-attack-on-bethesdas-main-platform/?p=39101405 Edited June 9, 2016 by tartarsauce2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted40837770User Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 well... this isn't either a reasonable and non childish behaviour: https://mods.bethesda.net/#en/workshop/fallout4/mod-detail/1606554how do they steal mods they dont have ck so its pc users who steal tem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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