Oddest CTD reason I've had

[aybayb259]

Hey Nexus, so as the title says, this is probably about my 15th time fully modding a Bethesda title going all the way back to Oblivion and I cannot for the life of me figure out what is wrong.

 

So essentially what is happening is this; I'm trying to play a heavily modded Fallout 4 Playthrough, and as I started downloading and activating mods, I would double check in game that it was all working fine and had no CTDs. I would always just load up one of my original very lightly modded saves from when the game first came out. And while adding all these new mods, my old saves still worked. So I assumed that making a new game would work too.

 

But, after fully modding my game to my liking, I went to make a new game, and everything was going smoothly; Character Creation, no huge lag spikes, ENB looked okay, and then when the scene came where you and your family are lowered into the Vault, my game immediately crashes. Thinking how odd that is, I went and loaded up one of my old saves and that still worked fine. So I downloaded some nice looking save files where the character was just waiting to exit the Vault and still, crash. So I went around, disabling mods, removing folders, and I oddly found the root of the problem.

 

If I removed my meshes and texture folders from my game folders, any new save would work. But when I put them back in, the game would crash again. Old saves from previous playthroughs would work regardless of the location of the meshes and textures. So my first instinct was that I must have too many graphic intensive mods. So I went and uninstalled pretty much every single retexture mod I had. Still no luck.

 

I'm at a loss for words here, I'm really not too sure what would be causing this. Maybe I'm just being stupid and it's a simple fix. I will attach some basic info too in case that helps.

 

*Before I list all my info, a side note might help, not sure if it's the cause. So originally before I got into heavily modding this playthrough, when I went to install and activate Weaponsmith Extended, it would crash my game upon opening any of the main menu dialogs likes, New, Continue, Load, etc. Not sure what all that was about so I temporarily disabled all Weaponsmith Extended files and that part of the game stopped crashing. Not sure if that has an impact or not but I thought I'd add it just in case.

 

F4SE installed, ENB previously installed but deleted in case it was the cause of the crashing, LOOT used, Bodyslide used

 

PC Specs:

Operating System: Windows 8.1 64-bit

CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K @ 3.50GHz 32 °C, Haswell 22nm Technology

RAM: 16.0GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (9-9-9-24)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 (CPUSocket) 33 °C

Graphics: 22MP56 (1920x1080@60Hz), NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (MSI) 36 °C

Storage: 119GB SanDisk SD6SB1M128G1022I (SSD) 24 °C, 931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-22BN5A0 (SATA) 28 °C

Optical Drives: ASUS DRW-24F1ST b

Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio

 

 

 

Load Order (A little different due to files uninstalled because of Weaponsmith Extended problem mentioned earlier:

 

 

 

*DLCRobot.esm

*DLCworkshop01.esm

*DLCCoast.esm

*ArmorKeywords.esm

*NewCalibers.esp

*Loads.esm

*Snap'n Build.esm

*Homemaker.esm

*CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm

*SettlementKeywords.esm

*ProjectCommonwealth.esm

*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

*ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp

*Leveled_List_Master_RESET.esp

*Vertidrones.esp

*Witcher - Geralt's Prologue Gear.esp

*GrenadeExpansionPack.esp

*GXP - AWKCR Compatibility.esp

*GXPDeployableTurretsPack.esp

*BowAndArrow.esp

*Scrap Everything.esp

*LootableCars.esp

*CSE_V2_WOTC-n2.esp

*RebuiltSeriesPrewarHousesFullyRestored.esp

*DEEPriverV1.5.esp

*SettlementContainers_NoRespawn.esp

*CROSS_PlasRail.esp

*Remove Interior Fog.esp

*DeployableTurretsPack.esp

*DTP - AWKCR Compatibility.esp

*Covscript.esp

*Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp

*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

*DD_Youre_Dead_this_Is_a_clone_Alternate_death.esp

*LagrieHelmet.esp

*DD_M79_Launcher_woooot.esp

*DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp

*GaussRifleMk2.esp

*GaussRifleMk2 - AWKCR.esp

*Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp

*DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp

*SettlersRename.esp

*VisibleCompanionAffinity_AffinityCheck.esp

*BacktotheFuture.esp

*AllInoneGHRVsCPBigger.esp

*TheFishermansGambit.esp

*BetterModDescriptions.esp

*3dscopes-replacer.esp

*3dscopes-replacer-addtospawn.esp

*PerksUnleveledFinal.esp

*ClearWater.esp

*MegaExplosions_x2_VisualsOnly.esp

*Waterworld.esp

*Armorsmith Extended.esp

*Minutemenoverhaul.esp

*FunctionalDisplays.esp

*FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp

*RaiderOverhaul.esp

*Modern Firearms.esp

*BTInteriors_Project.esp

*GorskiCabinOverhaul.esp

*Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp

*DiamondCityNew.esp

*MojaveImports.esp

*Wastelander's Cookbook.esp

*Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp

*SuperMutantOverhaul.esp

*Wasteland Arsenal.esp

*FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-Vanilla.esp

*TacticalMods.esp

*Boards to Spears.esp

*Minutemen Supply Caches.esp

*DD_Prelude_273.esp

*RansackedRelay.esp

*[PPE] Wastelander's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp

*Remove Interior Fog - Far Harbor.esp

*SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp

*MSR_SniperRifle.esp

*Weaponsmith Extended - DOOM_AddOn.esp

*Crossbow.esp

*Buildable_PAFrames.esp

*Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp

*OWR.esp

*WET.esp

*wintermute.esp

*SolsSixThousandCaps.esp

*Conquest.esp

*WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp

*EpilogueRestored.esp

*CAShield.esp

*BasementLiving.esp

*3dscopes-framework.esp

*3dscopes-replacer-FarHarbor.esp

*BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp

*Scrap Everything - Automatron Names.esp

*Scrap Everything - Automatron.esp

*OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp

*AdvSettleTurretSet.esp

*Pos_GuardPositions.esp

*Pos_ShopPositons.esp

*LooksMenu.esp

*DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp

*AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp

*AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp

*ShellRain.esp

*FO4Hotkeys.esp

*Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp

*companion_DogBots.esp

*Campsite.esp

*SlowTime.esp

*Binary Speech Checks V.4 Forgiving.esp

*10% Fusion Core Drain.esp

*OutfitSwitcher.esp

*PowerArmorDelivery.esp

*TakeCover.esp

*KSHairdos.esp

*CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp

*extendedLightsWS - No shadows.esp

*FO4LaserBolts - InstituteRoyalBlue.esp

*FO4LaserBolts.esp

*Remove Interior Fog - Automatron.esp

*Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp

*No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp

BetterModDescriptionsWE.esp

*combat_PA.esp

*combat_PA - AWKCR.esp

*BobbleGirl.esp

*EFF.esp

*Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp

*VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp

*dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp

*Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp

*DeadBodyCollision.esp

*Synth Overhaul .esp

*UniquePlayer.esp

*Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp

*Homemaker - SK Integration Patch.esp

*Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SK.esp

*CleanSettlement Beds.esp

*RepairSanctuary.esp

*OCDecorator.esp

*MO_HM_OCD_Patch.esp

*BetterStores.esp

*BS-SKPatch.esp

*Great Actors - NPCs.esp

*Eli Companion Overhaul.esp

*P.G.Overhaul.esp

*ImmersiveVendors.esp

*Lots More Facial Hair.esp

*Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp

*CBBE.esp

*DiamondCitySWAT.esp

*Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp

*OCDispenser.esp

*Northland Diggers.esp

*Arbitration - Recommended Core.esp

*Arbitration - Survival Damage by Player 2x.esp

*Arbitration - Survival Damage to Player 4x.esp

*NoNegativeAffinityNof*#@s.esp

*NoAffinityCooldown.esp

*Dogmeat's Backpack.esp

*BetterModDescriptionsAE.esp

*Grunts.esp

*Armorsmith Automatron.esp

*Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp

*FunctionalDisplays-Drinks-Vanilla.esp

*DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp

*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp

*PowerArmorVoice1.esp

*Higher Female Children Voice.esp

*Deeper Voice For Super Mutants - Type A3.esp

*SoundOfSilence-CFBE+DiamondCity.esp

*AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp

*Smoke-able Cigars.esp

*el_AgentOutfit.esp

*el_precursorsuit.esp

*TroublemakerOutfit.esp

*TrueReporter.esp

*GatlingRifle.esp

*rfortaleza2.esp

*DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp

*DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp

*HN66-SiriusArmor.esp

*Rangergearnew.esp

*Scavenged NCR Armor.esp

*Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp

*Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp

*CUTE.esp

*DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp

*Toxic Raider Armour.esp

*Survivalist GoBag.esp

*MGSOutfit.esp

*CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp

*CROSS_Uni_Belt.esp

*CROSS_Jetpack.esp

*CROSS_Techmask.esp

*CROSS_BallisticMask.esp

*CROSS_Cybernetics.esp

*CROSS_ExoFrame.esp

*Armorsmith Elianora.esp

*ASVektor.esp

*mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp

*GXPIntegration.esp

*roadflare.esp

*R91M.esp

*SpetnazRifle.esp

*Cannabis Commonwealth.esp

*SafeTrunkContentsReworked.esp

*rings1.02.esp

*Cannabis Commonwealth - Merged LLP.esp

*NanoSuit.esp

*WestTekTacticalOptics.esp

*CROSS_FireworksCannon.esp

*CROSS_LeveledLists.esp

*Armorsmith L0rdOfWar.esp

*BetterSettlers.esp

*SteevinsClothesPack.esp

*NukaRadBans.esp

*Survivalist.esp

*AE Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul - Commonwealth Scavvers Leveled List Patch.esp

*QuickEnterFromStand.esp

*QuickExitToStand.esp

*ThrawingWeapans.esp

*BS BFS Merged Patch.esp

*SC-BetterSettlersPatch.esp

*CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp

*Edit_Hancock.esp

*Nuclear weather.esp

*Maggie - Face Preset 15.esp

*GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp

*Outlawer Outfits.esp

*Crossfayt Armors.esp

*Crossfayt armors 2.esp

*Crossfayt Armors 2A.esp

*SynthHand.esp

*SCGRU_1.1.esp

*No Combat Boundaries.esp

*MojaveImports - SafeTrunkRework.esp

*IWN Core 1.7.esp

*MKIIGrenadeReplacer.esp

 

 

 

I would really appreciate any help on this because I would really not want to have to completely start from scratch again. Thanks guys!

 

[Deleted3507349User]

Dunno if it will help, but I create two completely unmodded no-DLC vanilla games (male and female), then run them right up to where they exit the vault and save. When I save them I do it via console and name the save either 'MALE' or 'FEMALE'. Then I install my mods or customize my characters. I did basically the same thing for previous Bethesda titles. The very first section of their games is always script-heavy and this method reduces the chances of things going wrong.

[aybayb259]

Dunno if it will help, but I create two completely unmodded no-DLC vanilla games (male and female), then run them right up to where they exit the vault and save. When I save them I do it via console and name the save either 'MALE' or 'FEMALE'. Then I install my mods or customize my characters. I did basically the same thing for previous Bethesda titles. The very first section of their games is always script-heavy and this method reduces the chances of things going wrong.

God it actually worked. For real thank you so much, you have no idea how much headache you just saved me.

[steve40]

You should not use old saves, they were made BEFORE the game updates were released. As you would now be using an updated version of the game it will not be backwards compatible with old saves.