What happened to The Rebel by L0rd0fWar?

[AzBoGaming93]

Just logged in an someone on this thread (not mentioning who) has asked if i could share the Rebel outfit

as i have the files still.

 

NOPE,

im sorry but im not trying to be a dick but even if a friend asked i wouldnt share the file(s) because if it ended up on a site or being shared everywhere i wouldnt want to be indirectly responsible for that to happen.

Edited October 5, 2016 by AzBoGaming93

[Pancakefury]

I posted this in response to someone else who asked the same thing in another thread.

 

Sorry but no. Anyone with a shred of respect for the mod author will not share his work online in any form or distribute it without his implicit consent. He wouldn't be cool with that.

It's likely that he never responded as he probably get's lots of similar messages from other people, but he's made his decision and his say is final. Maybe one day he'll reupload it, but in the meantime you'll have to be patient.

 

Well I do have respect for the author. As you can see, I even quoted the author's post replying to someone else about him being okay to share it between people as long as it's not uploaded to a "public site". Out in the open where he can see it instead of all shady-like.

 

Not only that but in exchange for friendship (being serious about making friends), I am more than willing to support the author for all the work that hes done in the form of a donation. Despite the fact that he has stated that he's done with the public modding scene.

 

I actually have the mods downloaded from two sources. One from that Russian website. Compared both and it seems they both have the same files and nothing "extra"

 

That being said, I'd still rather take less of a risk (in my opinion) by getting it from someone that I initiated. At least this way, I make a friend, support the author and take less of a risk.

[Pancakefury]

Just logged in an someone on this thread (not mentioning who) has asked if i could share the Rebel outfit

as i have the files still.

 

NOPE,

im sorry but im not trying to be a dick but even if a friend asked i wouldnt share the file(s) because if it ended up on a site or being shared everywhere i wouldnt want to be indirectly responsible for that to happen.

 

It was me. No need hide but dang man if your friends would do that, that'd be brutal. =/

[Pancakefury]

 

BUT In researching this i've realized that we've also got to remember that "Legally Speaking"... Most game companies who allow and support modding, add clauses to their "Eula" that allows them to use any content you create with THEIR Resources. When we buy a game, we are buying the right to experience something another group of artists have created, So technicly as far as the law is concerned, They allow us to use their content to make our own imaginings of their Game-World a reality for ourselves to enjoy. The moment we share that publicly it becomes theirs to do with as they wish. Because they were kind enough to let you use their assets.

 

if you used their tools and assets that would be right and even though not in most cases, but in case like adding new meshes and textures to the game it's different story. in the matter of fact the only tools that i am thankful for are

3ds max nif plugin and FO4edit, i noticed that the majority doesn't have a clue about character design process, i will try to make it simple by comparing it to the way the developer create their assets it's almost similar except it's much harder since i am working alone and without proper import/export tools. i was hesitating to share my work at first, i was afraid that a scenario like that would happen or worse, companies knows how to defend themselves unlike individuals they are vulnerable.

 

@onelunglee, Bethesda did manage the situation very poorly, but i don't hate them. after all they made us some good games, but also people should bare in mind that mods extend the game life for free.

 

 

You know what? Hey Mr. L0rd0fWar, I want your Rebel Armor outfit. Wanna be friends and share it with me? Seriously, that was some legit work. I can help you and support you with your work whenever I can.

 

I have the Autodesk Building and Design Suite for 2017. It includes 3D MAX. I haven't installed it yet since I haven't had a need for it for work but I can install it and help you out whenever I can if there is anything I can help you out with.

 

You might even be the guy to help me get into modding myself since your work is that good. Letting me enjoy your mod for my game will just be how we became friends. Hit me up and we can get to know each other. :smile:

[AGreatWeight]

 

Well I do have respect for the author. As you can see, I even quoted the author's post replying to someone else about him being okay to share it between people as long as it's not uploaded to a "public site". Out in the open where he can see it instead of all shady-like.

 

Not only that but in exchange for friendship (being serious about making friends), I am more than willing to support the author for all the work that hes done in the form of a donation. Despite the fact that he has stated that he's done with the public modding scene.

 

I actually have the mods downloaded from two sources. One from that Russian website. Compared both and it seems they both have the same files and nothing "extra"

 

That being said, I'd still rather take less of a risk (in my opinion) by getting it from someone that I initiated. At least this way, I make a friend, support the author and take less of a risk.

 

 

My post wasn't aimed at you in particular, just a general response to those who can't seem to accept the fact that the mod isn't available and keep asking about it. I imagine the mod author gets a lot of messages from people asking him to share it privately (and he likely also gets contacted by those who berate and harass him unknowingly or not)

Thankfully the o.p. of the thread that my post originates from understood the point I was making. Its a shame that a lot of people won't get to use the mod considering just how good it is, but the blame lies squarely at those entitled ones who trampled on the mod authors control of his own creation and attempted to circumvent his ability to do that for their own selfish reasons.

[Pancakefury]

 

 

Well I do have respect for the author. As you can see, I even quoted the author's post replying to someone else about him being okay to share it between people as long as it's not uploaded to a "public site". Out in the open where he can see it instead of all shady-like.

 

Not only that but in exchange for friendship (being serious about making friends), I am more than willing to support the author for all the work that hes done in the form of a donation. Despite the fact that he has stated that he's done with the public modding scene.

 

I actually have the mods downloaded from two sources. One from that Russian website. Compared both and it seems they both have the same files and nothing "extra"

 

That being said, I'd still rather take less of a risk (in my opinion) by getting it from someone that I initiated. At least this way, I make a friend, support the author and take less of a risk.

 

 

My post wasn't aimed at you in particular, just a general response to those who can't seem to accept the fact that the mod isn't available and keep asking about it. I imagine the mod author gets a lot of messages from people asking him to share it privately (and he likely also gets contacted by those who berate and harass him unknowingly or not)

Thankfully the o.p. of the thread that my post originates from understood the point I was making. Its a shame that a lot of people won't get to use the mod considering just how good it is, but the blame lies squarely at those entitled ones who trampled on the mod authors control of his own creation and attempted to circumvent his ability to do that for their own selfish reasons.

 

But you do understand what you're doing here right? You responded with quoting yourself, saying that anyone who shares the mod does not have a shred of respect for the author after I just quoted the author of the mod saying he's cool with it.

 

So not only is your response incorrect, you could be dissuading anyone who might be willing to share, especially to someone who is willing to make some sort of contribution to the author instead of just getting it for free. Coming from an author of another kind, in my opinion, you're more likely doing a disservice to the author than helping. I'll leave it at that as I used the mod from the Russian site after extensively scanning the f*** out of it.

 

@L0rd0fWar

 

Since you responded to this thread, you might end up reading this at some point. Got your mod from the Russian site. Looks awesome man. Despite getting it from a less reputable source, offer is still up for the friendship and donation. Send me a message if you want.

 

Also I'm sure you heard this before but you should get back into the game man. I'm not stranger to other people stealing my work and claiming it to be theirs, although it's in another form of art. s*** happens, strike back by making something even better. s***, I wouldn't be surprised if the people who stole your s*** are your competitors tryna kick you out of the game since you're that good because let's be honest, although these mods are free, they can pave the way to that dream job or something.

 

Good luck!

[damanding]

I was trying to stay out of it, but I'm finding it difficult to keep my mouth shut on this one. Pancakefury your "let's be friends and then you can give me what I want!" approach is socially awkward at best and just plain blatantly manipulative at worst. That's not how friendships work and I think you know that. You're trying to put a friendly gloss over a gross manipulative attempt to get your way without looking like a d-bag. I seriously doubt L0rd0fWar is dumb enough to fall for it and attempting it is insulting to him. Your addition of the "I'll make a donation!" carrot further ups the insult ante and would also happen to violate Nexus site rules. His account is still valid, you're free to donate or not, but holding a donation as a means of trying to get a mod author to do what you want isn't cool. If he went for it, he'd probably get banned. You don't have to like it but you do have to accept that the answer is no. Posting L0rd0fWar's permission for people to share with friends as permission for you to get what you doesn't work either. No one here is friends with you, after seeing this performance I doubt anyone wants to be friends with you. His permission was truly for sharing between friends, with someone people would trust wouldn't violate the spirit of his permission. You have "I want to violate the spirit of that permission" written all over you. You found it on your Russian site, you got what you wanted, and you should probably just stop with the fake friends bulls***.

[AGreatWeight]

Well, how I interpreted what LordOfWar meant when he said he didn't mind 'if you share it with friends' is obviously different to how you've chosen to interpret it.

You'd have to ask him to clarify, but my stance is that I will not distribute it to anyone - unless LordOfWar explicitly stated that he was fine with that... and seeing how his statement could be possibly misconstrued, I simply choose to err on the side of caution.

I have to disagree with your belief that I'm somehow doing LordOfWar a disservice by taking this stance. My refusal to share his mod (and my belief that this stance is the correct way) does not affect him negatively in any shape or form. I'm surprised that I have to even point this out.

[Zorlin3321]

Can someone please pm the link to the NCR salvaged armor on one of these non-english sites? I can't find it, and just throwing my two cents in.

Lord, if by chance you're reading this, I sympathize with you. No one deserves to be plagiarized so vehemently. Hope you can find some other artistic outlet.

Also, to the people against private distribution, I cannot empathize with you. As long as someone doesn't go posting a link in a public space, then I see no issue with sharing it privately. It's still sad that people have posted deleted mods so many times in public spaces that some people are so afraid of sharing it, then being indirectly responsible for the leak. We as a community shouldn't have to fear that.

Cheers! :)

[WhiskeyRiver2]

Can someone please pm the link to the NCR salvaged armor on one of these non-english sites? I can't find it, and just throwing my two cents in.

Lord, if by chance you're reading this, I sympathize with you. No one deserves to be plagiarized so vehemently. Hope you can find some other artistic outlet.

Also, to the people against private distribution, I cannot empathize with you. As long as someone doesn't go posting a link in a public space, then I see no issue with sharing it privately. It's still sad that people have posted deleted mods so many times in public spaces that some people are so afraid of sharing it, then being indirectly responsible for the leak. We as a community shouldn't have to fear that.

Cheers! :smile:

It's against the rules to link to any of those "other" mod sites here, or even mention them by name. If your Google-fu is really that weak I feel -very- sorry for you.