What happened to Modern Firearms (Gunsmith Edition) by idlesheep?

[Crimsonhawk87]

 

 

I'd like to know how a software company can have a copyright claim on digital models of existing, real world items? Copyright law is absolute BS!

So youre suggesting that everyone should be allowed to steal every model of objects only because they exist in real life? doesnt make too much sence, does it?

 

Its more nuanced than that. The only thing you can't outright reproduce about a weapon's likeness are the trademark stamps. It's why in some games you'll see the AK47 or the MP5 with funny names and none of the proper markings on them.

 

Beyond that there are plenty of loopholes you can use. The weapon can look -nearly- the same as the real world (See Metal Gear Solid 5) counterpart. This is how many real world clones of weapons get away with being clones. Then there's the fact that some are such ubiquitous images in modern culture that there's no reason you can't reproduce their likeness.

 

All in all, the fine details of copyright law would make your head spin. However, you don't have to worry about them at all. None of the above is why modern firearms has ceased to exist. All of the above assumes you've actually put effort into creating your own model of the firearm from scratch.

 

Modern Firearms made no such effort at all it seems.

 

Nice explanation...it does help clear up some things for me. And just because WE think it's stupid (the a**hats at MLB, anyone?) doesn't mean you can just use anyone's IP without their permission. I imagine some of it is just plain ignorance, some willful ignorance, and some down right theft. I have a feeling it's about to be like the Wild West in the modding world.

[glissaman]

Because I hate public lynchings when people don't have the details I'll share what I do and don't know. Posts like "he stole" and "no effort such effort was made" are in my eyes incorrect and totally unjustified slander.

 

I'm not the author, nor do I have access to what if any conversations that he has had with the Nexus. It is however my understanding that the author(s) sought out permission and gave credit for all content used. I believe now the issue is that the Nexus thinks some of those people might not have been legally able to give give those permissions.

 

Digital copyright law and the rabbit hole that "public domain" can become aside, it is my understanding that an effort is currently being made to reconfirm usage permissions from content creators and remove/replace any content that is suspect. The mod will return, if it returns to Nexus or not are up to both the author and those running this site.

[WhiskeyRiver2]

Because I hate public lynchings when people don't have the details I'll share what I do and don't know. Posts like "he stole" and "no effort such effort was made" are in my eyes incorrect and totally unjustified slander.

 

I'm not the author, nor do I have access to what if any conversations that he has had with the Nexus. It is however my understanding that the author(s) sought out permission and gave credit for all content used. I believe now the issue is that the Nexus thinks some of those people might not have been legally able to give give those permissions.

 

Digital copyright law and the rabbit hole that "public domain" can become aside, it is my understanding that an effort is currently being made to reconfirm usage permissions from content creators and remove/replace any content that is suspect. The mod will return, if it returns to Nexus or not are up to both the author and those running this site.

Thanks for saving my fingers the effort :3 Gonna copy-paste that in case I see any more threads about this, kay?

[SkyrimFanatik]

Because he stole models from other games.

Last I checked he was using models from Exciter's gun packs from Fallout NV, with Exciter_GB's permission, If he happened to use a copyrighted asset it might have been accidental/unknowingly, as it is copyright laws are some of the hardest laws to understand all the specifics of and in any year there are hundreds if not thousands of people who accidently or unknowingly violate copyrighted work, hopefully this is just such a case.

Edited June 4, 2016 by SkyrimFanatik

[JuJooGuppy]

I'd like to know how a software company can have a copyright claim on digital models of existing, real world items? Copyright law is absolute BS!

 

 

I am going to "go out on a limb here" and say that you have never, ever, ever tried to actually model something accurately and detailed, let alone a simple object. Nor have you then spent the countless hours properly texturing said item.

 

You have no idea how many hours it can take to do it right, even for an expert. THIS is why its illegal to steal said content from other sources without gaining permission. Because most people dont want their hard work re-used without consent. We see the same thing with modders.

 

Hell, my mods are nothing special really, but it still pisses me off to no end to see some jackass re-uploading them on his site to make money off my work without my permission. Thats bullsh* *.

 

 

 

From what I saw, he only got a warning, because the site he got them from was indeed "free to use", but that site was ripping them off from other games. So its somewhat reasonable that he didnt know that.

Edited June 4, 2016 by JuJooGuppy

[PJS1488]

 

I'd like to know how a software company can have a copyright claim on digital models of existing, real world items? Copyright law is absolute BS!

 

 

I am going to "go out on a limb here" and say that you have never, ever, ever tried to actually model something accurately and detailed, let alone a simple object. Nor have you then spent the countless hours properly texturing said item.

 

You have no idea how many hours it can take to do it right, even for an expert. THIS is why its illegal to steal said content from other sources without gaining permission. Because most people dont want their hard work re-used without consent. We see the same thing with modders.

 

Hell, my mods are nothing special really, but it still pisses me off to no end to see some jackass re-uploading them on his site to make money off my work without my permission. Thats bullsh* *.

 

 

 

From what I saw, he only got a warning, because the site he got them from was indeed "free to use", but that site was ripping them off from other games. So its somewhat reasonable that he didn

Oh, boo-hoo. If you don't like other people using your mods, don't upload them. The internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files.

[Danneyo]

 

 

I'd like to know how a software company can have a copyright claim on digital models of existing, real world items? Copyright law is absolute BS!

 

I am going to "go out on a limb here" and say that you have never, ever, ever tried to actually model something accurately and detailed, let alone a simple object. Nor have you then spent the countless hours properly texturing said item.

 

You have no idea how many hours it can take to do it right, even for an expert. THIS is why its illegal to steal said content from other sources without gaining permission. Because most people dont want their hard work re-used without consent. We see the same thing with modders.

 

Hell, my mods are nothing special really, but it still pisses me off to no end to see some jackass re-uploading them on his site to make money off my work without my permission. Thats bullsh* *.

 

 

 

From what I saw, he only got a warning, because the site he got them from was indeed "free to use", but that site was ripping them off from other games. So its somewhat reasonable that he didn

Oh, boo-hoo. If you don't like other people using your mods, don't upload them. The internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files.

Uh.

 

No.

 

Friend, I think I'm qualified to say you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Crimsonhawk87]

 

 

I'd like to know how a software company can have a copyright claim on digital models of existing, real world items? Copyright law is absolute BS!

 

 

I am going to "go out on a limb here" and say that you have never, ever, ever tried to actually model something accurately and detailed, let alone a simple object. Nor have you then spent the countless hours properly texturing said item.

 

You have no idea how many hours it can take to do it right, even for an expert. THIS is why its illegal to steal said content from other sources without gaining permission. Because most people dont want their hard work re-used without consent. We see the same thing with modders.

 

Hell, my mods are nothing special really, but it still pisses me off to no end to see some jackass re-uploading them on his site to make money off my work without my permission. Thats bullsh* *.

 

 

 

From what I saw, he only got a warning, because the site he got them from was indeed "free to use", but that site was ripping them off from other games. So its somewhat reasonable that he didn

Oh, boo-hoo. If you don't like other people using your mods, don't upload them. The internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files.

 

Haha, no, not even close...not by a long shot. The fact that you even say this tells me you shouldn't be using a computer, much less posting on any forums.

 

I am, of course, responding to the "internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files." comment.

Edited June 5, 2016 by Crimsonhawk87

[demonofsarila]

 

Oh, boo-hoo. If you don't like other people using your mods, don't upload them. The internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files.

 

 

Dear, you've confused "the internet" with "the *not allowed*". The internet is about sharing yes, but copyright law is still in play on legit sites.

 

Edit: Oh darn it seems I can't mention a certain site that is about illegally pirating and sharing torrent files.

Edited June 5, 2016 by demonofsarila

[Reneer]

Oh, boo-hoo. If you don't like other people using your mods, don't upload them. The internet is supposed to be for the free, unrestricted sharing of files.

Wow.