thepodger Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Hello folks! I finally pushed my load order past the breaking point and had to do a full reinstall. Not quite sure what broke things and I'm offering a bounty on the head of this technical problem of a free steam gift game. Anyhow, I've got everything set back up and working but my performance is now terrible using the same mods as before. I'm using the FNV4G.exe and NVSE and stutter remover along with the enhanced shaders. When I use the 4gb exe, the game runs like s***. When I don't use it it runs slightly better but still not how it used to. I vaguely remember having this problem before but eventually finding a workaround that let me use all three of these with great performance. Why would the 4gb exe be causing slowdown? I'm using an ATI card if that matters. I just can't for the life of me remember what steps I took that finally got the 4gb exe working fast. Any ideas? Not sure this matters but when I specify the custom launch exe, the launch button changes from "Launch NVSE" to "Launch New Vegas." I'm vaguely remembering using a version of FNV4GB_NVSE that wasn't from from the NVSE homepage and that fixed things but I may be pulling that out of my ass. Goddammit, I should never have changed anything. I finally had things working more or less how I wanted them with over 120 mods working side by side without crashing or performance problems and a bunch of custom editing and compatibility patching on my end to get things to play nicely together. Then I update IWS and everything dies, I reinstall, and now my game is unplayable. I flew too close to the sun . Here's my load order (Updated!) FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmIWS-Core.esmInventory Access.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Perks for Old World Blues.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTales from the Burning Sands.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmLawlessVegas.esmdt_Better_Companions_v1.esmMojaveExtended100.espASEF - Project Nevada Dynamic Crosshair Patch.espCentered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espPerkEveryLevel.espPMT - Destructible Ordnance.espHarderThan.espHarderThan-HH.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espHarderThan-PN.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espProject Nevada - Old World Blues.espBluesRadioNV.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espRadio Free Wasteland.espLawlessVegas.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espExpanded Traits.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Perks for Old World Blues Update.espMore Traits Update.espNV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.espIWS-DM.espIWS-HH.espIWS-OWB.espIWS-LR.espADAM - MAIN.espADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.espADAM - HH.espADAM - LR.espADAM - Rangers on Patrol.espADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.espboa ncrpahelmet.espNAPA-NV 0.1.espUnlimitedCompanions.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espdD-More Gore.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espRobots Balance Overhaul.espFNVEnhancedShaders - AA-DOF Enable.espVurt's WFO.espADAM - Project Nevada Patch.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espImproved Ballistics Effects V2.espLombard Station.espLombard Station - Dead Money.espLombard Station - Honest Hearts.espLombard Station - Old World Blues.espLombard Station - Lonesome Road.espLombard Station - Gun Runners' Arsenal.espAsharasHairConversionNV.espThe Low Profile Armor Mod.espMoMod-MCMMenu.espMoMod-NightSpawn.espMoMod-NightSpawn-HarderThan.espCowboy Perk Complete - New Vegas Bounties.espProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.espAG Supplementary Uniques.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Dead Money.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Honest Hearts.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Lonesome Road.espAG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Old World Blues.espR.A.C.E. Station.espEVE FNV.espProject Nevada - EVE.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espWeaponModsExpanded.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-OldWorldBlues.espWMX-LonesomeRoad.espWMX-GunRunnersArsenal.espWMX-MW-GRA.espWMX-EVE.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espchristinecos.espProject Nevada - WMX.espMail Order Catalogs.espMail Order Catalogs Hardcore.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02.espMail Order Catalogs WMX.espMail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.espcourierpowerarmor.espCourier Power Armor - Project Nevada.espPowered Power Armor.espJump Fall Fixer.espNew Vegas Error Corrections - DLC + GRA.espNVEC More Perks Patch - DLC + GRA.espThe Weapon Mod Menu.esp Total active plugins: 129Total plugins: 134 Also installed, in this order are:NMC small packOjo Bueno UHQArsenovalis' Weapon retexturesEVE Compatibility edition Whoever can figure this out gets a free steam game. My e-mail is the (dot) podger (at) gmail.com if you want to work over IM or something. The issues: Lots of random CTDs, frequent infinite loading screens, and the 4GB NVSE exe makes the game unplayably slow and I'm pretty sure the CTDs are due to the large textures requiring more than 2gb but I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnemnoch Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Not sure how to really fix your problem but why dont you try the 3gb FNV enabler if your having problems with the 4gb enabler? Also ASEF is not needed since the latest patch. Also have you tried using Wrye flash and make a bash patch? It will combine some of those mods in your load order, lessing your LO number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepodger Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) On 10/22/2011 at 9:55 PM, mnemnoch said: Not sure how to really fix your problem but why dont you try the 3gb FNV enabler if your having problems with the 4gb enabler? Also ASEF is not needed since the latest patch. Also have you tried using Wrye flash and make a bash patch? It will combine some of those mods in your load order, lessing your LO number. I know ASEF isn't needed anymore, but there's a mod with a dependency on it, I forget which one. I haven't ever used Wrye Flash, TBH I haven't the faintest idea how to use it.Anyone got a good introduction? Edited October 23, 2011 by thepodger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepodger Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just a quick update, I messed with my load order and resolved the infinite loading screens, but now I still get CTDs all the damn time :(. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmIWS-Core.esmInventory Access.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Perks for Old World Blues.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTales from the Burning Sands.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmLawlessVegas.esmdt_Better_Companions_v1.esmMojaveExtended100.espASEF - Project Nevada Dynamic Crosshair Patch.espCentered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espPerkEveryLevel.espPMT - Destructible Ordnance.espHarderThan.espHarderThan-HH.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espHarderThan-PN.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espProject Nevada - Old World Blues.espBluesRadioNV.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espR.A.C.E. Station.espRadio Free Wasteland.espLawlessVegas.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espExpanded Traits.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Perks for Old World Blues Update.espMore Traits Update.espNV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.espIWS-DM.espIWS-HH.espIWS-OWB.espIWS-LR.espAG Supplementary Uniques.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Dead Money.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Honest Hearts.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Lonesome Road.espAG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.espchristinecos.espADAM - MAIN.espADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.espADAM - HH.espADAM - LR.espADAM - Rangers on Patrol.espADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.espADAM - Project Nevada Patch.espboa ncrpahelmet.espClassic Midwestern Power Armor.espNAPA-NV 0.1.espPowered Power Armor.espUnlimitedCompanions.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espCowboy Perk Complete - New Vegas Bounties.espdD-More Gore.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espJump Fall Fixer.espRobots Balance Overhaul.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-OldWorldBlues.espWMX-LonesomeRoad.espWMX-GunRunnersArsenal.espWMX-MW-GRA.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Old World Blues.espEVE FNV.espProject Nevada - EVE.espWMX-EVE.espMail Order Catalogs.espMail Order Catalogs Hardcore.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02.espMail Order Catalogs WMX.espMail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.espVurt's WFO.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espImproved Ballistics Effects V2.espLombard Station.espLombard Station - Dead Money.espLombard Station - Honest Hearts.espLombard Station - Old World Blues.espLombard Station - Lonesome Road.espLombard Station - Gun Runners' Arsenal.espAsharasHairConversionNV.espThe Low Profile Armor Mod.espMoMod-MCMMenu.espMoMod-NightSpawn.espMoMod-NightSpawn-HarderThan.espProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.espNew Vegas Error Corrections - DLC + GRA.espNVEC More Perks Patch - DLC + GRA.espThe Weapon Mod Menu.esp Total active plugins: 127Total plugins: 137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneyLogic Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) What's your virus scanner? Maybe this helps:http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1208859-endless-loading-screen/page__view__findpost__p__18929113 Regarding CTDs:If you updated to ptch 1.4, save games which has been created with prior game versions may cause frquent crashes. In that case I'd just try to start a new game. Edited November 13, 2011 by tortured Tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael120782 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Quote GunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esm :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneyLogic Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Isn't that content of Courier’s Stash? Edited November 13, 2011 by tortured Tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael120782 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 On 11/13/2011 at 10:09 PM, tortured Tomato said: Isn't that content of Courier’s Stash? No. Couriers Stash is just that only one.esm. All 4 have been known to cause problems.And its been explained again and again and again and you see it all the time. We had a thread going explaining common causes of crashing but never got stickied like it should have. Only ways to get all 4 preorder packs is to pirate or buy 4 copies of FNV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battousai124 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I have pretty much the same problem like you podger, but i could resolve at least the frequent thing about it when i put the error correction esps pretty much first in my load order. The normal one i placed right at the top and the fook one i placed pretty much at the end, also i made a merged patch with my load order and put that at the end of it. On 10/23/2011 at 4:54 PM, thepodger said: Just a quick update, I messed with my load order and resolved the infinite loading screens, but now I still get CTDs all the damn time :(. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmAmmoSpreadEffectFixer.esmIWS-Core.esmInventory Access.esmMoMod.esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Perks for Old World Blues.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmTales from the Burning Sands.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmLawlessVegas.esmdt_Better_Companions_v1.esmMojaveExtended100.espASEF - Project Nevada Dynamic Crosshair Patch.espCentered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espPerkEveryLevel.espPMT - Destructible Ordnance.espHarderThan.espHarderThan-HH.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espHarderThan-PN.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espProject Nevada - Old World Blues.espBluesRadioNV.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espR.A.C.E. Station.espRadio Free Wasteland.espLawlessVegas.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espExpanded Traits.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Dead Money Update.espMore Perks for Honest Hearts Update.espMore Perks for Old World Blues Update.espMore Traits Update.espNV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-Core-Guards.espIWS-Core-Civilians.espIWS-DM.espIWS-HH.espIWS-OWB.espIWS-LR.espAG Supplementary Uniques.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Dead Money.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Honest Hearts.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Lonesome Road.espAG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.espchristinecos.espADAM - MAIN.espADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.espADAM - HH.espADAM - LR.espADAM - Rangers on Patrol.espADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.espADAM - Project Nevada Patch.espboa ncrpahelmet.espClassic Midwestern Power Armor.espNAPA-NV 0.1.espPowered Power Armor.espUnlimitedCompanions.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espCowboy Perk Complete - New Vegas Bounties.espdD-More Gore.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espJump Fall Fixer.espRobots Balance Overhaul.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espWMX-ModernWeapons.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-OldWorldBlues.espWMX-LonesomeRoad.espWMX-GunRunnersArsenal.espWMX-MW-GRA.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espAG Supplementary Uniques-Old World Blues.espEVE FNV.espProject Nevada - EVE.espWMX-EVE.espMail Order Catalogs.espMail Order Catalogs Hardcore.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02.espMail Order Catalogs WMX.espMail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.espMail Order Catalogs DLC01 WMX.espMail Order Catalogs DLC02 WMX.espVurt's WFO.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espImproved Ballistics Effects V2.espLombard Station.espLombard Station - Dead Money.espLombard Station - Honest Hearts.espLombard Station - Old World Blues.espLombard Station - Lonesome Road.espLombard Station - Gun Runners' Arsenal.espAsharasHairConversionNV.espThe Low Profile Armor Mod.espMoMod-MCMMenu.espMoMod-NightSpawn.espMoMod-NightSpawn-HarderThan.espProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.espNew Vegas Error Corrections - DLC + GRA.espNVEC More Perks Patch - DLC + GRA.espThe Weapon Mod Menu.esp Total active plugins: 127Total plugins: 137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthienanarion Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) On 11/13/2011 at 11:14 PM, Azrael120782 said: On 11/13/2011 at 10:09 PM, tortured Tomato said: Isn't that content of Courier’s Stash? No. Couriers Stash is just that only one.esm. All 4 have been known to cause problems.And its been explained again and again and again and you see it all the time. We had a thread going explaining common causes of crashing but never got stickied like it should have. Only ways to get all 4 preorder packs is to pirate or buy 4 copies of FNV. This is wrong. Buying the Courier's Stash just gives you all 4 pre-order packs. It does not combine them into one. Using all four of them does not actually cause any issues, but used to be a clear indication of a pirated game before they put them up for sale as the Courier's Stash on Steam. Edit: clarification. Edited November 21, 2011 by luthienanarion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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