CTD Interior to Exterior Transitions

[Kyrah07]

I have just finished modding my oblivion and everything was going well. I installed a few mods at a time started the game walked around a bit traveled to the different areas in Imperial city with no problems. Then I added a few more and repeated the process. until all mods were installed. Then on my last run through I started the game and since I use Alternative Start by Robert Evrae I start on a ship then go to sleep and wake up standing on the imperial waterfront before I installed my last few mods Imperial City waterfront loaded just fine then all of a sudden the loading bar would get all the way to the end then stay that way for a few minutes then I here a Ding as if I'm clicking on a window that it isn't able to be activated then it crashes and I get the message "Oblivion has stopped Responding" and have to end Oblivion in task manager. I've tried reordering my mods by hand and same thing. I thought it might have been caused by the last mods I installed so I deactivated Esps back to a point where I know it was working and reloaded the game, Imperial City loaded fine. Then I added more esps that I knew where working previously and then I was back to the same problem long load Ding then crash. Don't know what the cause can be here is my load order I would appreciate any suggestions.

 

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  DibellasWatch.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  xeoex.esm
04  You Are Here.esm
05  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.1]
06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
07  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
08  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esm
09  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0B  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.0.7]
0C  BathingMod_Base.esm
0D  x117race.esm
0E  Lovers with PK.esm
0F  TamagoClub.esm
10  HiyokoClub.esm
11  BreakUndies.esm
12  CM Partners.esm
13  xeorace.esm
14  xeoracex117.esm
15  HorseCombatMaster.esm
16  ScreenEffects.esm
17  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.7]
18  DLCHorseArmor.esp
19  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1A  DLCOrrery.esp
1B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
1C  DLCfrostcrag.esp
1D  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
1E  DLCThievesDen.esp
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp
20  DLCVileLair.esp
21  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
23  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp
24  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
25  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
26  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
27  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
28  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
29  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
2A  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
2B  Cyrodiil Transportation Network WZ OC.esp
2C  xeoexpeople.esp
2D  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
2E  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
2F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
30  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
31  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
32  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
33  Oblivion Sound Sets.esp
34  PCSoundSafana.esp  [Version 2.6]
35  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
36  Storms & Sound.esp
37  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
38  WindowLightingSystem.esp
39  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.3]
3A  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
3B  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
3C  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
3D  diversegrasses.esp
3E  ImprovedSigns.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]
3F  personality_idles4.esp
40  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.2]
41  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
42  [Hexaae] Get Wet v0.92.esp  [Version 0.92]
43  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp
44  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
45  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
46  Streamline 3.1.esp
47  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]
48  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.1]
49  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]
4A  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
4B  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
4C  Armor Merged Plugin.esp
4D  VipCxjHHTest.esp
4E  AncientTowers.esp
**  AncientTowers Vwalk.esp
4F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
50  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
51  WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited Fix4v1.0b.esp
52  WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bOWCND.esp
53  WAC.esp
54  WAC - Player Summons.esp
55  WAC - TCOS.esp
56  WAC - TCOS Shops.esp  [Version 03]
57  WAC - TCOSFix4v1.0b.esp
58  WAC - OverSpawn.esp
59  WAC - Dead Knights.esp
5A  WAC - Dead Knights Fix.esp
5B  WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp
5C  WAC - Birds&Insects.esp
5D  WAC - Companions.esp
5E  WAC - Horses.esp
5F  WAC - 8th Gate.esp
60  WAC - Legion.esp
61  WAC - Gladiator.esp
62  WAC - Magic.esp
63  OWC - Mannequin.esp
64  OWC - Seaworld.esp
65  OWC - Players Home.esp
66  OWC - New Dimension.esp
67  WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bOWCND ILF.esp
68  WAC - NoMapMarker.esp
69  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.71]
6A  Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch - Bright.esp
++  Better Benirus Manor - SYS Patch.esp
6B  Casa Bella Vista.esp
6C  Clintmichs Beautiful IC District Pack Plus.esp
6D  DibellasWatchAdditions.esp
**  DibellasWatchAdditions Vwalk.esp
6E  DWAnvilTransport.esp
**  DWAnvilTransport Vwalk.esp
6F  HentaiLovelyHouse.esp
70  Hentai Mania.esp
**  Hentai Mania Vwalk.esp
71  Highwood.esp
++  Highwood-SYS-Patch.esp
72  Highwood-Cobl-Support.esp
73  KingdomofAlmar.esp
74  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
75  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
**  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
76  KvatchCastleMakeover.esp
77  GlenvarCastle.esp
78  GlenvarCastle - Bathing Mod Patch.esp
**  GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp
79  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]
7A  Septim Mansion.esp
7B  The Temple of Serpent Race.esp
7C  Thermae.esp
7D  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
7E  Valenwood Improved.esp
7F  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
80  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
**  VHBloodlines 1.2 Vwalk.esp
81  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
82  Knights.esp
**  Knights - Book Jackets.esp
83  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
84  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]
85  The Lost Spires.esp
**  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp
86  Mighty Umbra.esp
87  Blood&Mud.esp
**  Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp
88  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
89  MannimarcoComplete.esp
8A  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
8B  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
8C  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
8D  Unofficial Elsweyr Anequina Patch.esp
++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.2]
**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp
8E  Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
8F  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
90  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp
91  Walkabout.esp
++  WAC - Elsweyr Anequina.esp
92  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
**  HeartOftheDead Vwalk.esp
93  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
94  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
95  WAC-ULdarkforest-patch.esp
96  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
97  xulTheHeath.esp
98  XulEntiusGorge.esp
99  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
9A  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
9B  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
9C  Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
9D  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp
9E  WAC-ULchorrolhinterland-patch.esp
9F  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
A0  HentaiMania2.esp
**  HentaiMania2 Vwalk.esp
A1  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
A2  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
A3  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
A4  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
A5  HentaiLovelyHouse2-AncientYews patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
A6  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
A7  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
A8  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
A9  OWCND - UL Arrius Creek Patch.esp
AA  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
**  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat Vwalk.esp
AB  xulPantherRiver.esp
AC  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
AD  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
AE  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AF  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp
B0  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]
**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
B1  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
B2  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
B3  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B4  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B5  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp
B6  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp
B7  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
B8  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
**  xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp
B9  MannimarcoResurrection-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
BA  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
BB  Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
BC  bartholm.esp
**  bartholm Vwalk.esp
BD  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
BE  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
BF  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]
C0  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3]
C1  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
C2  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
C3  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]
C4  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
C5  ReneersGoldMod.esp
C6  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
C7  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
C8  BathingMod_Soap.esp
C9  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp
CA  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp
CB  Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp
CC  Unholy Darkness.esp
CD  Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
CE  ConduitMagic.esp
CF  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
D0  MCS extension.esp
D1  SetBody.esp
D2  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
D3  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
D4  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
D5  StealthOverhaul.esp
D6  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
D7  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
D8  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
D9  DRSplatter.esp
DA  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]
DB  Oblivion XP.esp
DC  All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
DD  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp
**  Mayu's Animation Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  SW01.esp
**  SWalk.esp
DE  SP1stPLegs.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
++  MD_Natural_Faces_DV.esp
DF  CM Partners.esp
E0  Marg Lena V2.esp
**  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
E1  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
E2  Synx.esp
**  CM Partners Vwalk.esp
E3  CM Partners NPC.esp
E4  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
E5  CM Partner Franziska.esp
E6  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.1]
++  1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Gonzoguns.esp
++  1em_Vilja_coolhair60.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
E7  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 3.21.]
**  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 5.0.7]
**  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.esp
E8  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
E9  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 4.9.8]
**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]
EA  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
EB  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 5.0.0]
EC  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
ED  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
**  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]
++  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
EE  MiniMap.esp
++  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  HM2SummonCompatible.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
EF  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]
++  Races-Resized-DV.esp
F0  xeosp++.esp
**  xeosp++ Vwalk.esp
F1  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]
F2  LoversTamagoClub.esp
F3  LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp
F4  ZMCPlayerSlave.esp  [Version 0.04]
F5  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 90]
F6  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4]
F7  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F8  LoversMB2.esp
F9  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
FA  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
FB  VanityCameraSmoother.esp
FC  DWIngameMap.esp

 

[MShoap13]

First, try deactivating Streamline. If that doesn't fix it, knowing what mods you installed last could be crucial to troubleshooting your issue. Common causes of similar crashes are a large number of missing meshes (usually from improperly copying a mod's resources), an improperly configured Oblivion.ini (usually regarding distant objects [including but not limited to trees, grass, buildings, fog, etc.]) or simply graphical overload.

 

Check out your \Data\ directory and make sure you don't have another folder named "Data" inside of it. Beyond that, you'd have to go through the archives of your mods and manually compare their content to your \Data\ directory. It's helpful to try and find a culprit mod or mods by deactivating them in chunks, then when the crash goes away add in the mods from the last chunk back in one at a time until you reproduce the issue. The last one added back in is usually the cause.

 

If you've manually altered anything in Oblivion.ini, especially if it was view distance related, try undoing said changes. If you can't track down the issue here, renaming "Oblivion.ini" to "Oblivion.ini.bak" or moving it to a temporary location outside of the \Documents\Games\Oblivion\ directory and then starting Oblivion and loading your game should create a new Oblivion.ini from scratch. This essentially rules out Oblivion.ini as the culprit. Though your current Oblivion.ini may have been altered by any number of your mods to allow them to function properly (UI mods for example). If you can't manually find the problem, but getting a fresh .ini fixes your issue, you may need to reinstall any mods that did alter the old one for them to work.

 

If it's just plain graphical overload you may have to tone down some settings or possibly even get rid of/replace some of your more intensive mods.

 

Edit: Notes on BOSS:

 

BOSS's automatic load order assumes that you are cleaning the plugins it suggests for you to clean, and that you are using Wrye Bash to apply the Bash Tags it suggests. Not doing so can potentially result in broken mods, the severity of brokenness can range anywhere from invisible eyes/missing (purple) textures to broken quests to CTDs.

 

Edit Edit: Generally, using Game Booster to turn off any unnecessary background process, WEOCPS and Fast Exit 2 can go a long way towards keeping your Oblivion more stable.

Edited October 23, 2011 by MShoap13

[Kyrah07]

Thank you for your reply MShoap13 I am going to implement some of your suggestions, I checked my data folder and there was another data folder inside my data folder it contained sky textures not sure if that was causing it will update this post after I make deactivate streamline and also delete DRSplatter which Boss says causes CTDs.

[LFact]

By the way, have you disabled autosave? Make sure disable all autosave option, for it can be corrupted unless you delete autosave file often.

[Kyrah07]

Nothing I've done seems to work blah gonna keep trying must be a mod since the game loads fine and everything works indoors. long night of troubleshooting ahead of me.