Cliffracerz Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I know for sure there are unused resources in the game concerning the Dragonborn marrying the High King's widow and acending the throne. The most satisfying ending for me would have been for the Dragonborn to rally the legions and armies of the jarls and lead them against the Thalmor. The Empire would then be free of their influence and the Dragonborn would establish a new imperial dynasty. Most of this would happen off screen after our in game adventures. What would have been really nice is the ability to choose from multiple endings that would influence aspects of our play through of the next Elder Scrolls. Edited June 15, 2016 by Cliffracerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThalmorHighKingQueenDLC Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) There is also unused quest where Boethiah sends you (her champion) to assasinate Elisif & aftermath would be that Erikur becomes a Jarl (i bet that his annoying sister Gisli would be a part of his court) & he would simply forgive you for killing Elisif because of the political advantage. Also there's a leftover dialogue in the game after u finish Boethiah's Calling when u approach a guard inside the Blue Palace at the front entrance, he tells u that the jarl is sick & is worried that there's an assasination attempt against her life. But ofc, nothing comes out of it. Edited June 15, 2016 by ThalmorHighKingQueenDLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha8088 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Game conclusion quests are ptooey. Skyrim is a never ending story. I like to do most of the Interesting NPCs Quests after both the Dragonborn and Civil War quests. Now that Inigo can help me beat the Imperials/Stormcloaks together with Vilja, the Dovahkiin is darn near unstoppable. Bring on the modding quests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderMuffin Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Fighting the Thalmor was never meant to be part of the game. Even if Ulfric was crowned then that wouldn't mean instant war with the Thalmor because Ulfric doesn't have the strength nor the resources, especially with the Empire still being a hostile force that can re-invade. Also the Civil War itself wasn't part of the main story, it was a side faction. Though I do agree it would be nice to see a crowning but it's not all that important to the ending of the game and they most likely did it so there wouldn't be problems in the next game. Also apparently you never played Fallout 4 or even bothered to read up on it but it's not similar to Fallout 3 is anyway. Ever heard about tes term Dragon Break? I guess u didn't. I didn't played F4 (nor i'm ever planing to) but i played F3 & it was awful. When i compared F3 with F4 videos, it's exactly the same carbon-copy recycled piece of s*** but even worse. Here i was expecting to be innovative, trully next-gen, like Skyrim was compared to Oblivion but i guess not. Anyway, to quote Galmar: What is the aim of this war? ''"First, we'll kick the Thalmor and their bloody Imperial puppets out of the country. Then, we will rebuild Skyrim into the land she once was. When we are done with that, we will take our army to the Dominion, and show those pointy-eared bastards not every man is fit to be their slave." What's next for the mighty Galmar Stone-Fist? "Heh. Ulfric's put me in charge of keeping an eye on the new Jarls. You know, make sure they're generally following orders. Can't say I'm looking forward to that. But, I will also be training men and women for their new armies. The Empire might send over a few Legionnaires to make sure we're serious, and of course, we'll be taking the fight to the elves soon enough. We'll need trained, disciplined and creative warriors for all that." although: Is there anything further I can do for the cause? "No. I trust you'll do more good out there in the world, wherever you damn well please to go. You're a true son/daughter of Skyrim and'll know what to do. To begin with, killing any Legionnaire you find out in the wilderness. I've reports they've hidden military camps out there." Also Rikke's words: ''The Legion's work is far from finished, but you are free to roam. I suspect you'll be of greater good to Skyrim out there, in the world. If while you're out there, you stumble into any Stormcloak military camps, I expect you to destroy them. I've reports they are hiding in the hills.'' "There are those who still call themselves Stormcloaks, who continue to fight us, and bring misery to the people... but they are few in number. The ordinary citizen will be happy to get back to life as normal, to have their families return home. And they should enjoy it while they can... I suspect all of Tamriel will again be called to arms in the not too distant future." This suggests that maybe Dragonborn wasn't meant to be included in contuniation of a Civil War at all which is dissapointing. Still they could've added short moot meeting & crowning to sort of wrap it. Oh well...i guess i expected too much from it, they could've done the civil war way better (half of the content was cut from the final game somebody restored it in Civil War Overhauld mod) but still, there's literally NO EXCUSE of why they didn't gave an option for cleaning the Riften from corruption aka putting end to the Thieves Guild & Maven. Thieves Guild storyline as a whole was utterly atrocious, it definitely deserved award for the worst piece of writing in gaming. Where are the other races of children i wonder & why the existing nord ones look the same? Lazyiness pure & simple! Wow shocking, you never played Fallout 4 and you're making inaccurate claims. I know about dragon breaks but nothing in the game that is directly in response to the main quest actually causes a dragonbreak unlike previous examples of a dragonbreak, even the time wound isn't the same type of dragonbreak as the Warp in the West as all it is is a look into a past. The rest of your post is pretty much not even worth commenting on save for the child bit. Again, the civil war ending in a dragonbreak wouldn't make a damn lick of sense and the game isn't about fighting the Thalmor or taking the fight to the Thalmor. At most the Thalmor are nothing but side characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signette Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Why ppl are not okay with standard Skyrim ending? Why do you want to become a king/queen? How do you propose logical continuation of story in TES6 then? Do you realise that there can't be any no name king, right? And everyone has different dragonborn. Ripping out entire story of a dragonborn king of Skyrim for that matter would be nonsense. Waiting for story that continues Thalmor business + reborn of the new evil makes TES6 anticipating. Anyway, Civil War is entirely optional, ending is great, I wouldn't have it any other way. No protagonist of TES series should ever be king or namely figure in lore, it always has to be some unknown adventurer/savior, nothing more. Edited June 17, 2016 by Signette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I didn't mind the ending, I just don't much care for the storylines. I find them too ... dumbed down, I guess. Too quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroGamerNinja Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Why ppl are not okay with standard Skyrim ending? Why do you want to become a king/queen? How do you propose logical continuation of story in TES6 then? Do you realise that there can't be any no name king, right? And everyone has different dragonborn. Ripping out entire story of a dragonborn king of Skyrim for that matter would be nonsense. Waiting for story that continues Thalmor business + reborn of the new evil makes TES6 anticipating. Anyway, Civil War is entirely optional, ending is great, I wouldn't have it any other way. No protagonist of TES series should ever be king or namely figure in lore, it always has to be some unknown adventurer/savior, nothing more.Common entitlement. That's why. Personally, I couldn't care less: Nirn is doomed, anyway. Edited June 17, 2016 by AfroGamerNinja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShannonSkyrimford Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Wow shocking, you never played Fallout 4 and you're making inaccurate claims. I know about dragon breaks but nothing in the game that is directly in response to the main quest actually causes a dragonbreak unlike previous examples of a dragonbreak, even the time wound isn't the same type of dragonbreak as the Warp in the West as all it is is a look into a past. The rest of your post is pretty much not even worth commenting on save for the child bit. Again, the civil war ending in a dragonbreak wouldn't make a damn lick of sense and the game isn't about fighting the Thalmor or taking the fight to the Thalmor. At most the Thalmor are nothing but side characters. Screw DULLout this is the forum specifically about TES so go talk about crappy BOREout franchise elsewhere. Speaking of side characters, Alduin was supposed to be some main scary big bad villain who is everywhere, yet he barely shows up during main questline or Skyrim in general. He shows up 2 times - once at Kynesgrove, second time at the Throat of the World & afterwards in Sovngarde & if u're lucky maybe u'll see him raising dead dragons from burial grounds as random encounter (Helgen doesn't count because that's just prologue). Alduin is nothing more but sort of cameo apperance & instead of playing a bigger role as he was supposed to, BUGthesda shoved him aside. And Thalmor are not ur ''typical side characters'' have u even played the game they are as that *censored* Delphine said: ''The worst threat to all of Tamriel''. Thalmor = Nazzis And how dare u to say that the Thieves Guild is not worth mentioning?!?! I see...u're just a deluded BUGthesda fanboy who is probably already hurrying up to buy ''Definitive Edition'' of Skyrim. It's anything but definitive just so u know. Skyrim needed a proper ending & that's a fact, whether u like it or not. Why ppl are not okay with standard Skyrim ending? Why do you want to become a king/queen? How do you propose logical continuation of story in TES6 then? Do you realise that there can't be any no name king, right? And everyone has different dragonborn. Ripping out entire story of a dragonborn king of Skyrim for that matter would be nonsense. Waiting for story that continues Thalmor business + reborn of the new evil makes TES6 anticipating. Anyway, Civil War is entirely optional, ending is great, I wouldn't have it any other way. No protagonist of TES series should ever be king or namely figure in lore, it always has to be some unknown adventurer/savior, nothing more. No i'm not okay & i'll never will be satisfied with that ''standard'' ending. Civil War & Thalmor are more important then ur typical ''hero saves the world story'', it's what sent main character to the execution block in the first place. Alduin saved him/her sort of. The main LDB is male nord warrior the rest of the LDBs exist in parallel realities aka Dragon Break. That means that even though male nord warrior aka the poster boy saved the world, that doesn't mean he killed the emperor he simply destroyed the dark brotherhood & for example Argonian Female ''Hero'' who may or may not became LDB killed him aka joined db in parallel reality. Dragon Break is very interesting concept. I'm perfectly fine with either Ulfric or Elisif being on the throne (Dragonborn can be too he/she could persuade/intimidate E or U to step aside or perhaps even kill them so that could work as a non-canon story just for the gameplay purpose) but it makes totally no sense not to include the allmighty Dragonborn in the final battle against the Thalmor! Both Stormcloacks & the Empire would greatly benefit with a such a powerful being that ever lived by their side. It would be also very cool to have an option to join the Thalmor rather then destroying them same as the concept of Dawnguard DLC. LDB is being that should not take the etiquette of being just ''another meaningless hero who time forgot'', he/she is very authentic. Obviously they should not reveal the gender of LDB & simply leave it to a speculation. Edited June 17, 2016 by ShannonSkyrimford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderMuffin Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wow shocking, you never played Fallout 4 and you're making inaccurate claims. I know about dragon breaks but nothing in the game that is directly in response to the main quest actually causes a dragonbreak unlike previous examples of a dragonbreak, even the time wound isn't the same type of dragonbreak as the Warp in the West as all it is is a look into a past. The rest of your post is pretty much not even worth commenting on save for the child bit. Again, the civil war ending in a dragonbreak wouldn't make a damn lick of sense and the game isn't about fighting the Thalmor or taking the fight to the Thalmor. At most the Thalmor are nothing but side characters. Screw DULLout this is the forum specifically about TES so go talk about crappy BOREout franchise elsewhere. Speaking of side characters, Alduin was supposed to be some main scary big bad villain who is everywhere, yet he barely shows up during main questline or Skyrim in general. He shows up 2 times - once at Kynesgrove, second time at the Throat of the World & afterwards in Sovngarde & if u're lucky maybe u'll see him raising dead dragons from burial grounds as random encounter (Helgen doesn't count because that's just prologue). Alduin is nothing more but sort of cameo apperance & instead of playing a bigger role as he was supposed to, BUGthesda shoved him aside. And Thalmor are not ur ''typical side characters'' have u even played the game they are as that *censored* Delphine said: ''The worst threat to all of Tamriel''. Thalmor = Nazzis And how dare u to say that the Thieves Guild is not worth mentioning?!?! I see...u're just a deluded BUGthesda fanboy who is probably already hurrying up to buy ''Definitive Edition'' of Skyrim. It's anything but definitive just so u know. Skyrim needed a proper ending & that's a fact, whether u like it or not. And Dagoth Ur only appears once in person and Mehrunes Dagon only appears once in Oblivion. What's your point? No, the "main LDB" is not a nord warrior, there is no main LDB just like there is no main Eternal Champion, no main Agent, no main Nerevarine and no main Champion of Cyrodiil. There is not a single TES hero that has a canon race, gender or profession and that's what is good about the TES series. The heroes are always ambiguous and then they fades away into history. That's their entire point. Not agreeing with your opinion or bad idea of some new ending that has nothing to do with the game =/= me being a fanboy so you can go away with that awful logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signette Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Pretty much what CiderMuffin said, feels like Skyrim is your first game in series, and you have no idea how lore works in this game and what is the real point of Hero in every iteration. Edited June 22, 2016 by Signette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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