LoginToDownload Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Oblivion doesn't handle large-scale battles very well... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triforce1 Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Dangit! Are you sure?!! Can we fix that?!! Oh, sorry...Well, I didn't mean hundreds of NPCs; I mean't more along the lines of 25 NPCs to a side, or so. 'Cause I really had hoped...Oh well, shows ya how much I know...Either way, Oblivion lacks what one would call "cinematic". That's why I love the New Game sequence soooo much. I just thought this mod needed that. But if it won't work...(are you getting that dejected feelng yet?)...Then how about this...maybe YOU have an idea? :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Maybe a battle inside a castle/courtyard area? Those tend to have multiple different cells, so the number of total fighters could probably get pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triforce1 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Sounds good...I was thinking of making a larger castle/courtyard anyway. Seems to me that the castles in the cities of the game are too small. Not the actual buildings, but the area around them. In this new city, I was planning on making the castle area the main point of the city. But I still would like to be able to see the dragons flying overhead from the battlefield. Thanks for the help. Are you sure you don't want to get started on this group mod? You could always be the voice of reason...you clearly know more about this than I do... :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I appreciate the offer, but I'm just regurgitating what other people say on the forum. And have a chronic fear of responsibility. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerminator2004 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 You can't really have more than 10 NPCs per cell, at an absolute maximum, so large scale battles just wouldn't work, at all. Similarly, combat from on top of a dragon couldn't be done either, unless there were some way to make use of the mounted combat mod... even then, you'd only be able to cast spells, and not use any weapons... which basically makes what would be this mods killer ap basically impossible. And logintodownload, working in a team's a lot easier than freelancing, trust me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I would imagine combat on dragonback, Akatosh Mount style, could be "faked" by playing its "Fly forward" animation around the battlefield and casting a fire spell from it every so many seconds via activator. On the ground the dragons would need to be unmounted, though. I could have sworn the MQ battles (Bruma and the Imperial City) had more than 10 NPCs. (Not just actors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerminator2004 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 There were 5 or 6, plus creatures... which does come to over 10, but then again, creatures don't take up so many resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 As far as the battle of Bruma goes, if you do all the side-quests, there's... MartinJauffreBaurusWere there other Blades? If there were, I'm not counting them.2 from Cheydinhal2 from Anvil2 from Skingrad1 from Bravil1 from Leyawiin1 from Kvatch2 from Chorrol1 from Bruma (Probably more, being generous)2, let's say, living Dremora on the field at once. That's at least 17 NPCs. I'm also pretty sure the "procession", including clapping civilians, also comes out to more than 10. At least, the CS has 10 markers for civilians to stand, and I think they're all occupied. Hey, hypothetically, what would happen if you had "creatures" using a human skeleton, human meshes, (creating if required) human sounds, and human animations? Could those work as soldiers? *When I list 2 under the guards, I'm referring to the CS dialogue with that area's leadership. If they use plural terms like sending "men" and "soldiers", I list 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerminator2004 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Well, I didn't do all the towns... but I'm not quite sure how they could have done that, as I've used mods with less NPCs than that, and I still got massive slowdown, yet I didn't really get any at the battle of Bruma... how did they manage that? Strange... As for the NPC creatures... it could, possibly work, but I really don't know. I don't think it's ever been tried before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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