Anyone know what causes these two images?

[Bauldric]

This one happens no matter what I do, making me believe it's a vanilla issue but yet I remember one play through where it didn't happen which sadly wasn't my vanilla playthrough way back when. I believe these are the LOD textures sitting underneath or on top of each other or just sitting around too long. If this might be a problem with MODs, I'll post my load order after I get my mind working enough to make spoilers. Ohh the joys of a cold. Sorry for the huge pictures.

 

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s468/bauldric/20160618005414_1_zpsl7iugenl.jpg

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s468/bauldric/20160618011018_1_zps2vgkc5r3.jpg

 

Load Order for those who are interested.

 

Load Order:

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm

5 5 ArmorKeywords.esm

6 6 Damage Threshold.esm

7 7 Snap'n Build.esm

8 8 SettlementKeywords.esm

9 9 Homemaker.esm

10 a VideoMaster.esm

11 b Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

12 c Armorsmith Extended.esp

13 d Quick Save.esp

14 e Balanced Fusion Core Drain.esp

15 f BetterJetpack.esp

16 10 MoreWeaves.esp

17 11 BrighterSettlementLights_LessHarsh.esp

18 12 SettlersRename.esp

19 13 ModdableRobotSettlers.esp

20 14 LongerPowerLines3x.esp

21 15 BetterSettlers.esp

22 16 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp

23 17 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

24 18 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp

25 19 ClearWater.esp

26 1a Chainsaw.esp

27 1b DYNAVISION.esp

28 1c AutomatronSecuritron.esp

29 1d th1nkEyebot.esp

30 1e th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp

31 1f Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius x3.esp

32 20 Tougher Vertibirds.esp

33 21 TrueStormsFO4.esp

34 22 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp

35 23 TrueStormsFO4-NoConstantRads.esp

36 24 TrueStormsFO4-Performance-Fog.esp

37 25 SpotlightFix-150.esp

38 26 You Talk Too Much.esp

39 27 BetterJunkFences.esp

40 28 ReasonableWorkbenchPerks.esp

41 29 dinoshelf.esp

42 2a dinoshelf_half.esp

43 2b Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

44 2c NoMoreRandomTurretMks.esp

45 2d ImmersiveVendors.esp

46 2e InteriorsEnhanced-FarHarbor.esp

47 2f Strong Back.esp

48 30 Strong Back - DLCCoast.esp

49 31 PipeShotgun.esp

50 32 PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp

51 33 SettlementLimitSlashedFarHarbor.esp

52 34 SettlementLimitSlashed.esp

53 35 Crafting Workbench.esp

54 36 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

55 37 Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp

56 38 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp

57 39 SettlementContainers_NoRespawn.esp

58 3a ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCFarHarbor.esp

59 3b CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp

60 3c NX Pro - Farm Core.esp

61 3d ValdacilsItemSorting-AidReducedWeight.esp

62 3e CommonwealthChooksAndBunnies.esp

63 3f MikeMooresMCAM.esp

64 40 InteriorsEnhanced.esp

65 41 Tesla X01.esp

66 42 EnclaveX02.esp

67 43 MojaveImports.esp

68 44 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp

69 45 SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp

70 46 PowerArmorT49.esp

71 47 BetterStores.esp

72 48 ValdacilsItemSorting-Mods.esp

73 49 RaiderOverhaul.esp

74 4a Impervious Power Armour.esp

75 4b RaiderArmorBuffROH.esp

76 4c Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp

77 4d Craftable Armor Size.esp

78 4e Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp

79 4f AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp

80 50 Paintable Helmets.esp

81 51 Paintable Helmets - AE Patch.esp

82 52 Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp

83 53 Armorsmith Automatron.esp

84 54 Defense Gun Merge Patch.esp

85 55 Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp

86 56 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp

87 57 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp

88 58 CMPA +250.esp

89 59 RaiderArmorBuffAWCKR.esp

90 5a MergepatchRaiderBuffandCraftable.esp

91 5b WastelandImports - Valdacil's Item Sorting Compatibility.esp

92 5c ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp

93 5d SuperPerkPatch.esp

94 5e GiveMeMyBottleBack.esp

95 5f ValdacilsItemSorting-Ammo.esp

96 60 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp

97 61 ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp

98 62 ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkBetter+DEF_INV.esp

99 63 ValdacilsItemSorting-Misc.esp

100 64 ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp

101 65 ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp

102 66 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCAutomatron.esp

103 67 RaiderOverhaul-VISPatchDLC.esp

104 68 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp

105 69 ShellRain.esp

106 6a Real Marine Armor.esp

107 6b NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp

108 6c NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp

109 6d Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp

110 6e CleanSettlement Beds.esp

111 6f Better Explosives - Normal.esp

112 70 Better Explosives - Far Harbor.esp

113 71 Better Explosives - Enhanced Grenades.esp

114 72 Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 45.esp

115 73 WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp

116 74 CleanSettlement.esp

117 75 CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp

118 76 GaussRifleMk2.esp

119 77 Northland Diggers.esp

120 78 tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp

121 79 GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp

122 7a tank_PA.esp

123 7b tank_PA - tAE - AWKCR - VIS AbS.esp

124 7c combat_PA.esp

125 7d combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR - VIS AbS.esp

126 7e Buildable_PAFrames.esp

127 7f SprintFix.esp

128 80 NukaColaClassic.esp

129 81 WastelandImports_MedicPerks.esp

130 82 Rangergearnew.esp

131 83 mso_sms.esp

132 84 BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp

133 85 AutoDoors.esp

134 86 CleanSettlement Auto Doors Compatibility.esp

135 87 Infinite Ammo Patch.esp

136 88 Ingestible Patch .esp

137 89 BeastWhisperer.esp

138 8a EveryonesBestFriend.esp

139 8b Survival-Tweaks-Without-Chem-Stim-Thirst-0.20.ESP

140 8c ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp

141 8d BeastMaster_ExoticCreaturesPatch.esp

142 8e personalvertibird.esp

143 8f vertunlockminutemenpilot.esp

144 90 OCDispenser.esp

145 91 OCDecorator.esp

146 92 OCD FarHarborDLC.esp

147 93 AlternateSettlements.esp

148 94 Weapon Brackets.esp

149 95 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp

150 96 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp

151 97 AkaWaterWorld.esp

152 98 BasementLiving.esp

153 99 Campsite.esp

154 9a Campsite-AWKCR.esp

155 9b Console_Enable.esp

156 9c AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp

157 9d AkaSinger.esp

158 9e Working BBQ Grill.esp

159 9f Merged Level List.esp

160 a0 RealTroughs.esp

161 a1 ScrapDeadThings.esp

162 a2 DarkerNights-FarHarbor.esp

163 a3 Move (Get Out the Way).esp

164 a4 DD_All_the_COncrete.esp

165 a5 Brainwashing.esp

166 a6 SoberingVideos.esp

167 a7 SPDV-CivilDefenseVideos-1.esp

168 a8 SPDV-PlanetOutlawsB.esp

169 a9 SPDV-PlanetOutlawsA.esp

170 aa SPDV-BettyPage.esp

171 ab SPDV-KillersFromSpace-A.esp

172 ac SPDV-KillersFromSpace-B.esp

173 ad BusySettlers.esp

174 ae BusySettlersRug.esp

175 af VotWGeneralPurposePatch.esp

176 b0 SpecialVideos.esp

177 b1 StarlightDriveInVideos.esp

178 b2 Vertibird Alt Fix.esp

179 b3 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp

180 b4 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp

181 b5 OSHA_Signs.esp

182 b6 DarkerNights.esp

183 b7 DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp

184 b8 BetterNightVision.esp

185 b9 ArtilleryFlare.esp

186 ba ArtilleryInstantdblexp.esp

[LadyMilla]

I guess it is related to the limitations of the graphics engine + size of your video memory. My previous video card had only 3 GB VRAM and I often found LOD textures that got stuck. Now I have a graphics card with 8 GB VRAM, and these issues are gone mostly.

[Bauldric]

See the funny thing is, is that I have a GTX980 TI (6GB from what I recall) and I'm not running any new texture mods or anything like that. So I would think that this wouldn't be an issue. I'll try running the game at lower settings and check back. (Also have 16gb of Ram and an intel 5280k I believe but don't quote me on model numbers because foggy brain is running hard atm).

 

After Thought: Could running Settlement Mods effect this if you didn't have big settlements or many items placed yet anywhere? Also could it be an issue of running in Windowed Mode because now that I think about it. I haven't run with Windowed mode for a long time but recently I went back to it.

[LadyMilla]

I had these issues in a vanilla game. Mods might make it worse, but I definitely remember encountering these stuck LOD textures during my first playthrough.

[Bauldric]

Unfortunately this issue killed my first playthrough and it seems to get worse as I play now to where Sanctuary doesn't start loading till I hit the settlement zone wall...I wonder if something broke my LOD distances.

[LadyMilla]

Just a wild guess... Is Fallout IV installed on an SDD or on a conventional HDD?

[Bauldric]

HDD. I couldn't/can't afford an SSD.

[LadyMilla]

My game is on an SSD. Maybe it is a texture streaming issue then. Defragging the drive might (or might not) help.

[Bauldric]

So, I downgraded graphic and that didn't really help. I am going to defrag it and see if that helps like you said. I'll report back in the morning after the defrag.

 

Also, side note: I seemed to have this problem (at it's worst) last time I installed the mod FAR Faraway Area Reform. I re-installed it recently again to try and see if it helped the issue and it always seems to exacerbate the issue. I am going to see if NMM didn't install it right/didn't remove it fully. Scratch that. I checked to see if anything got left behind and it hadn't. I suppose I am just going to most likley have to learn to live with it since it keeps happening. Are there any mods out there that improve LOD distance, etc besides or in addition to, Faraway Area Reform? I don't really understand why my draw distance/LOD distance is so poor. I mean I can only load half of Sanctuary at a time now since I left it came back. It's like the problem is growing exponentially. I encountered this once before and the only way to specifically stop the growing problem was to scrap everything and redownload/install the game again. I really don't want to do that again. I am now going to bed with the dragger doing a full defrag if that changes things. Here's a Load Order if anyone is interested.

 

Load Order:

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm

5 5 ArmorKeywords.esm

6 6 Damage Threshold.esm

7 7 Snap'n Build.esm

8 8 SettlementKeywords.esm

9 9 Homemaker.esm

10 a VideoMaster.esm

11 b Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

12 c Armorsmith Extended.esp

13 d Quick Save.esp

14 e Balanced Fusion Core Drain.esp

15 f BetterJetpack.esp

16 10 MoreWeaves.esp

17 11 BrighterSettlementLights_LessHarsh.esp

18 12 SettlersRename.esp

19 13 ModdableRobotSettlers.esp

20 14 LongerPowerLines3x.esp

21 15 BetterSettlers.esp

22 16 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp

23 17 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

24 18 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp

25 19 ClearWater.esp

26 1a Chainsaw.esp

27 1b DYNAVISION.esp

28 1c AutomatronSecuritron.esp

29 1d th1nkEyebot.esp

30 1e th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp

31 1f Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius x3.esp

32 20 Tougher Vertibirds.esp

33 21 TrueStormsFO4.esp

34 22 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp

35 23 TrueStormsFO4-NoConstantRads.esp

36 24 TrueStormsFO4-Performance-Fog.esp

37 25 SpotlightFix-150.esp

38 26 You Talk Too Much.esp

39 27 BetterJunkFences.esp

40 28 ReasonableWorkbenchPerks.esp

41 29 dinoshelf.esp

42 2a dinoshelf_half.esp

43 2b Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

44 2c NoMoreRandomTurretMks.esp

45 2d ImmersiveVendors.esp

46 2e InteriorsEnhanced-FarHarbor.esp

47 2f Strong Back.esp

48 30 Strong Back - DLCCoast.esp

49 31 PipeShotgun.esp

50 32 PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp

51 33 SettlementLimitSlashedFarHarbor.esp

52 34 SettlementLimitSlashed.esp

53 35 Crafting Workbench.esp

54 36 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

55 37 Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp

56 38 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp

57 39 SettlementContainers_NoRespawn.esp

58 3a ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCFarHarbor.esp

59 3b CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp

60 3c NX Pro - Farm Core.esp

61 3d ValdacilsItemSorting-AidReducedWeight.esp

62 3e CommonwealthChooksAndBunnies.esp

63 3f MikeMooresMCAM.esp

64 40 InteriorsEnhanced.esp

65 41 Tesla X01.esp

66 42 EnclaveX02.esp

67 43 MojaveImports.esp

68 44 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp

69 45 SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp

70 46 PowerArmorT49.esp

71 47 BetterStores.esp

72 48 ValdacilsItemSorting-Mods.esp

73 49 RaiderOverhaul.esp

74 4a Impervious Power Armour.esp

75 4b RaiderArmorBuffROH.esp

76 4c Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp

77 4d Craftable Armor Size.esp

78 4e Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp

79 4f AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp

80 50 Paintable Helmets.esp

81 51 Paintable Helmets - AE Patch.esp

82 52 Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp

83 53 Armorsmith Automatron.esp

84 54 Defense Gun Merge Patch.esp

85 55 Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp

86 56 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp

87 57 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp

88 58 CMPA +250.esp

89 59 RaiderArmorBuffAWCKR.esp

90 5a MergepatchRaiderBuffandCraftable.esp

91 5b WastelandImports - Valdacil's Item Sorting Compatibility.esp

92 5c ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp

93 5d SuperPerkPatch.esp

94 5e GiveMeMyBottleBack.esp

95 5f ValdacilsItemSorting-Ammo.esp

96 60 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp

97 61 ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp

98 62 ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkBetter+DEF_INV.esp

99 63 ValdacilsItemSorting-Misc.esp

100 64 ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp

101 65 ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp

102 66 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCAutomatron.esp

103 67 RaiderOverhaul-VISPatchDLC.esp

104 68 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp

105 69 ShellRain.esp

106 6a Real Marine Armor.esp

107 6b NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp

108 6c NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp

109 6d Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp

110 6e CleanSettlement Beds.esp

111 6f Better Explosives - Normal.esp

112 70 Better Explosives - Far Harbor.esp

113 71 Better Explosives - Enhanced Grenades.esp

114 72 Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 45.esp

115 73 WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp

116 74 CleanSettlement.esp

117 75 CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp

118 76 GaussRifleMk2.esp

119 77 Northland Diggers.esp

120 78 tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp

121 79 GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp

122 7a tank_PA.esp

123 7b tank_PA - tAE - AWKCR - VIS AbS.esp

124 7c combat_PA.esp

125 7d combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR - VIS AbS.esp

126 7e Buildable_PAFrames.esp

127 7f SprintFix.esp

128 80 NukaColaClassic.esp

129 81 WastelandImports_MedicPerks.esp

130 82 Rangergearnew.esp

131 83 mso_sms.esp

132 84 BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp

133 85 AutoDoors.esp

134 86 CleanSettlement Auto Doors Compatibility.esp

135 87 Infinite Ammo Patch.esp

136 88 Ingestible Patch .esp

137 89 BeastWhisperer.esp

138 8a EveryonesBestFriend.esp

139 8b Survival-Tweaks-Without-Chem-Stim-Thirst-0.20.ESP

140 8c ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp

141 8d BeastMaster_ExoticCreaturesPatch.esp

142 8e personalvertibird.esp

143 8f vertunlockminutemenpilot.esp

144 90 OCDispenser.esp

145 91 OCDecorator.esp

146 92 OCD FarHarborDLC.esp

147 93 AlternateSettlements.esp

148 94 Weapon Brackets.esp

149 95 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp

150 96 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp

151 97 AkaWaterWorld.esp

152 98 BasementLiving.esp

153 99 Campsite.esp

154 9a Campsite-AWKCR.esp

155 9b Console_Enable.esp

156 9c AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp

157 9d AkaSinger.esp

158 9e Working BBQ Grill.esp

159 9f Merged Level List.esp

160 a0 RealTroughs.esp

161 a1 ScrapDeadThings.esp

162 a2 DarkerNights-FarHarbor.esp

163 a3 Move (Get Out the Way).esp

164 a4 DD_All_the_COncrete.esp

165 a5 Brainwashing.esp

166 a6 SoberingVideos.esp

167 a7 SPDV-CivilDefenseVideos-1.esp

168 a8 SPDV-PlanetOutlawsB.esp

169 a9 SPDV-PlanetOutlawsA.esp

170 aa SPDV-BettyPage.esp

171 ab SPDV-KillersFromSpace-A.esp

172 ac SPDV-KillersFromSpace-B.esp

173 ad BusySettlers.esp

174 ae BusySettlersRug.esp

175 af VotWGeneralPurposePatch.esp

176 b0 SpecialVideos.esp

177 b1 StarlightDriveInVideos.esp

178 b2 Vertibird Alt Fix.esp

179 b3 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp

180 b4 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp

181 b5 OSHA_Signs.esp

182 b6 DarkerNights.esp

183 b7 DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp

184 b8 BetterNightVision.esp

185 b9 ArtilleryFlare.esp

186 ba ArtilleryInstantdblexp.esp

 

Second Edit:

Another Image from a different angle of the same issue. I don't know if you can see it but you can tell the point where it stops loading based on the fragment of my barn floating in space.

 

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s468/bauldric/20160618023049_1_zpsavsmyag3.jpg

[speedynl]

that door and the stone query have this problem from the start, its more a random thing, sometimes it works like intended sometimes not

 

btw did you ever looked good at that door ?, they din't even placed it right

and it have nothing do do with system spec

4790/16 ram/gtx 970/win 7 pro do it to, but like i say its random

Edited June 18, 2016 by speedynl