mrspongeworthy Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Here is my mod request: Enable a system like VATS in Skyrim. I'm a big fan of the classic RPG character control structure; like in Baldur's Gate and much later Dragon Age. I almost universally dislike anything remotely like a first-person-shooter. I don't really want to do the combat myself most of the time. Occasionally sure, but mostly I enjoy the other aspects of a game much more and would prefer the combat to be under my control but essentially automated. That's one of the strengths of Fallout 3 and New Vegas - they somehow managed to come up with a system that made almost everyone happy. I think there are probably a lot of us here who liked VATS, and would like to see something similar in Skyrim. I can already tell I'll tire of the combat long before I tire of the rest of the game. A nice VATS-like system, even if it doesn't include targetable body-parts would be cool. Likewise, a complex scripted system like in DAO would also be a great addition to Skyrim. Major kudos to whoever pulls this one off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrspongeworthy Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Just wanted to come back and touch on this topic again. After having played Skyrim a lot now, I have to say I think no single mod would be better than something which implements VATS (and/or a scripted DAO-style) combat system. I absolutely can't stand the combat in Skyrim. It's a bit better than Oblivion, but that isn't saying much. The controls are so cumbersome and awful, that I spend most of each combat just trying to access the proper equipment anyway (with hotkeys), or being forced to pause and manually select what I want from the incredibly bad menu system. By the time I've got the correct sword in my right hand and the correct other item in my left hand, my companion and/or horse has usually just finished the combat for me. How did this ever make it through testing (likely answer: they tested it on consoles and said "that's good enough"). If I'm already being forced to pause anyway, then we might as well have VATS or something like it. Also, the lack of any kind of kill-cams for spell casters is terrible, and even for brawlers we only get good kill-cams on rare occasion. In short, we NEED really great cinematic combat, something worthy of the beauty of the rest of Skyrim. I want to watch my warrior cleave limbs from bandits or watch my mage boil the skin off opponents with dual-wielded fire spells. It's a total shame that we have such a large wonderfully rendered world despoiled by bad combat, relatively lame combat animations, and bad control design. A VATS/DAO style system would eliminate all these issues. I've noticed a couple other requests like this one, so hopefully some skilled modders can come up with a solution! Edited December 4, 2011 by Mr_SpongeWorthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfStark Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I support you idea and hope after the release of the kit someone who is able to mod will support it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excuse Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree, or at least the ability to pause during combat, look around and order an action that would be triggered when you unpause (like in BG, etc) Skyrim's combat system is really terrible for archers and spellcasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskEmbla Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I would like a combat system similar to Assassins Creed which also make it better when it comes to fighting multiple enemies. A kill streak in Skyrim would kick some major ass. I also wish for the stealth kills that is featured in AC to be able to kill of some guards on the walls and while I´m at it. Stealth kills from behind should be instant kill with the targets throat slit from ear to ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrspongeworthy Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Any thoughts on whether or not this will be possible now that the Creation Kit is out? I've gone from "disliking the Skyrim combat system" to "no longer playing Skyrim because of the combat system". I would really love to enjoy this RPG and strongly feel it deserves a good cinematic RPG-style combat system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndud0 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Any thoughts on whether or not this will be possible now that the Creation Kit is out? I've gone from "disliking the Skyrim combat system" to "no longer playing Skyrim because of the combat system". I would really love to enjoy this RPG and strongly feel it deserves a good cinematic RPG-style combat system. Omg i so feel you i dont play it anymore either, just bcuz of that, all the goodness in it is sucked up by the stupid and lame in it, but i have a different idea for combat in this game, im gonna post a mod request on here somewhere and if you like it spread it around please!! http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/557341-no-more-simple-combat-we-need-somewhat-complex-combat/ Edited February 9, 2012 by johndud0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrspongeworthy Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone working on this yet? A mod like this is certainly beyond my ability (well, beyond my ability considering the amount of free time I have to learn how to do something like this), but I would really like to see good scripted cinematic combat come to Skyrim and if you do a "google" you'll see a fair smattering of chatter about the net suggesting similar sentiments. I find the combat system in Skyrim currently to be incredibly boring. Now that there are a few working "increased deathmove" mods, things are a bit better, but still, the combat in Skyrim just doesn't hold any allure for those of us who prefer true RPG-style combat systems. I would love to help someone alpha / beta test a mod along these lines. Here is hoping that one of you brilliant modders can get this to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boothead Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 After VATS and the intricate combat system of DAO I am so surprised how lame combat in Skyrim is. Quit playing because of the lame combat and difficulty(set it to easy and you one hit everything, set it to hard and everything one hits you.) Both are dumb. I would love a VATS system where you can target body parts/weapons. It would be awesome for magic. Imagine being able to shock weapons out of an enemy's hand or take a long steady aimed shot at someone over a hill from stealth or something. Skyrims combat is a joke. when you charge at an enemy and attack you aren't suppose to slide to the left/right of them and keep going. =| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndud0 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 After VATS and the intricate combat system of DAO I am so surprised how lame combat in Skyrim is. Quit playing because of the lame combat and difficulty(set it to easy and you one hit everything, set it to hard and everything one hits you.) Both are dumb. I would love a VATS system where you can target body parts/weapons. It would be awesome for magic. Imagine being able to shock weapons out of an enemy's hand or take a long steady aimed shot at someone over a hill from stealth or something. Skyrims combat is a joke. when you charge at an enemy and attack you aren't suppose to slide to the left/right of them and keep going. =| ya dude the combat is just not fun, the combat would be great with a timing mod for attacks, dodging, and with location damage like you said, until i find a complex combat mod i wont play it, lemme know if you find one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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