Am I the odd one out?

[MikhailFaulken]

Yeah, my ecomeny is very, very destoried.

[jazneo]

Yeah, my ecomeny is very, very destoried.

 

 

people are using money that they dont have and bank trying to get money bank when they find out they dont have in first place

[JimboUK]

Go play on a console then. It is that simple.

 

 

yea he should just buy for console if he worry about information being stole

 

XBL and PSN both phone home. I guess he could stay offline but then he'd never get any patches.

 

Problem with him he just parody thinking somone going to steal his bank account and money. i personal belive never buy dam credit card. there debit card and paypal for buying stuff online credit card should be stop being use that destory encomeny

 

I don't see what all the fuss is about, people should check their accounts often and report anything suspicious to the bank, it's their problem then.

[DeadSpace]

@OP there are other methods, you bought the game, shouldn't be hard to find a non-steam method to play it. i found one, beth gets their money, i get to play, steam gets nothing. win win win.

 

 

@nic1357890 there is nothing good about steam, first, read their eula and tos, carefully. you own nothing, those sales are lease events because you own nothing, your only recourse should a dispute arise betwixt you and steam is you leaving steam. 'uses a tiny amount of resources'? how about uses zero? steam is useless, a waste, jpg screenshots? who cares? fraps does better and doesn't need to run constantly, takes vids too.

 

no steam = no resources taken up by it at all, no complications due to steams interference, no requirement for online activation...no requirement to be online at all, no possibility of data theft, no need for sandboxes or anythng else to protect you from steams nosiness. and finally...heard about steams recent...indiscretion? data looted...i loled hard.

 

steam is worse than useless because it actually has a negative impact on gaming vs gaming without it.

Edited November 15, 2011 by DeadSpace

[BlackCompany]

Little FYI: I opened Skyrim last night from the executable. It never even opened Steam. I am now able to play it without Steam active. Just register and then close Steam.

 

Not a fan of Steam/Origin myself. Unfortunately, more and more games seem to be tied to these damned third party applications. Wish it were otherwise and I buy every game I find for sale that does not tie itself to anyone else. Just to support devs who refuse to take that plunge. But it looks like Bethesda have chosen not to force us to use Steam once the game is installed and registered.

 

A good thing, that.

[ZombieInfected]

Seriously, how much harm can Steam do? It's very useful when it comes to patching games.

I guess you can activate Skyrim on another pc, and then run in via a shortcut or something.

I can think of a few things that are worse than Steam. Like Facebook for example, that tracks your movements on the web even if you log out.

 

*grabs tinfoil, makes complete armor* :)

 

Cheer up, I hope you will get to play it, eventually.

Edited November 17, 2011 by ZombieInfected

[dmgvss]

Piracy wins again.

 

(No I didn't... but still.)

[bben46]

There is no need to pirate anything to play Skyrim without running steam all of the time. Just use the TesV.exe to start the game and it bypasses steam. You will need to get on steam to activate the game anyway - as there is some content that is not on the DVD.

 

Install the steam client - you will need that to activate the game anyway.

use the instructions for installing a DVD game and activate Skyrim using steam, it will automatically update your game

Close steam.

Look in the Skyrim folder and find TesV.exe.

Right click and create a shortcut. Move the shortcut to your desktop.

Now to play just click on the shortcut you created.

[Arinithor]

Oh come on. Some people are being a little harsh on the guy complaining about Steam. Personal security is everyone's personal choice. If someone doesn't want to be exposed at all online, they shouldn't have to be. For me, the whole "Steam game in a box" issue is just preference. If I buy a game in a box on disk, it's because I want to run it off the disk or the hard drive. Why would I buy the box to run the game on Steam versus just logging into Steam and making my purchase? I really don't see the logic in selling the Steam version of a game on a box with a disk. If someone doesn't have internet access, this won't help them anyway! This happened to me with Civ V. I bought the box on sale for like $19. I don't recall for CERTAIN but I don't think the online page said anything about Steam. Whatever as it's not a huge deal to me, just annoyed me that it was a Steam game that I obviously could have gone and got online without waiting a week for the box to be sent!

 

The other people this will impact are those without high speed internet. Yes, there are still a lot of those people out there, just like there are a lot of console owners who don't have access and so don't play online. So they buy the box and then find out they can't play the game at all, plus now they can't return it since it's opened. If it's a Steam game they should go ahead and refund in those circumstances, IMO, because it's not the same as a disk based game you could have opened and ripped before trying to return it. Selling the Steam version in the box thus hoses those who take their personal data security VERY seriously and those without high speed internet. That's all. Personally I'm fine with it though it seems to me (anecdotal evidence only) that Steam based games seem to run a tad slower than their "full" counterparts. But then again, since I don't want to upgrade my computer every time a new game comes out, I usually play titles like Skyrim on the PS3. And yes, I'm online and make online purchases through that. :) I just don't think we should rip on people for being tight about their security and wishing that a product came in a more traditional form, especially when most games DO come that way when they're in a box.

 

Edit- Just saw the shortcut to running the app via admin credentials to bypass Steam. Like I said, doesn't matter to ME, but very cool tip! Good info!

Edited November 17, 2011 by Arinithor

[MrTastix]

In the end, it's another victory to those who pirate video games.

 

"Legit" gamers - those who pay for their games - have to struggle through the burden of DRM. Steam is not only a digital distribution service, but also a form of DRM, and the only people who have to put up with this are those who purchase the game legally. Anyone who doesn't - that is to say, anyone who simply downloads the game illegally - doesn't have to deal with any form of DRM, Steam included, because it's simply removed when the game is cracked for release.

 

Those who honestly believe that Steam is "uncrackable" (something Valve themselves have claimed numerous times) are simply fooling themselves. Steam is a piece of software. Every software can be cracked. Every software that has ever been released has been cracked. Saying otherwise is a foolish, naive notion.

 

Why should I have to deal with Steam, when a pirate doesn't?