jjb54 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 The Mod Author is not entitled to thank yous in the same way the Mod Users are not entitled to thank yous (or the even the mod itself for that matter). Saying thank you is considerate, and should be appreciated. But no one should feel sad if it doesn't happen. I hate to tell you, but the world is sadly far from perfect. All you can really do is give your endorsement (or donation) and feel god that you personally thanked the author. Find comfort that you did something many never do at all.And with that; common courtesy becomes uncommon, ingratitude becomes acceptable and the Golden rule looses it luster. Thank you - I'm glad I'm not alone on this thread. I totally agree with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I imagine some people either don't realize they even got donations (How does it inform you exactly..? I would have no idea if I got one..) or had no way to know who did it. Im sure some people are just rude and have no common courtesy, but I would think (and hope) thats a minority. I know if I knew I had received such a thing and from who, I would make it abundantly clear what that meant to me. If I didnt know who did it, I would likely still do a general thank you, because that is how I was raised, and I would truly appreciate someone doing that type of thing.I am hoping that they just dont realize it or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard8 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 if it's through paypal, your email might be hidden and they mod author might not be able to put two and two together!.. Also one time I donated to a skyrim mod and the mod author kept a picture in his easter room with all who donated and there initial's where put on the thank you picture in his easter room, I had to tell that mod author my paypal email so he'd know it was me that donated!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunderbot Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) On one hand, I believe that if you donate you should do it because you really just believe in supporting the mod author and not expect anything in return. But on the other hand, I totally get it and a thank you is the least they can do for your donation. It can suck when you release a mod and nobody seems grateful to have it, so in the same vein it must not feel very heartwarming when you try to show your gratitude through more than just a simple post or endorsement and your donation doesn't get acknowledged at all. Might be they missed it. Might be they don't know how to contact you. Might be they should learn to at least acknowledge somebody when they donate. I think you can usually tell what kind of person a mod author is. Even the ones that are quite rude still put work into the community and (usually) not get anything in return, so I respect that still. But you do notice the ones that try to interact with the people who enjoy their mod, who listen to feedback, etc. Edited June 28, 2016 by Wunderbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Well as stated, I did send PM's to the Mod Creators to first ask: .. Premium Membership?.. Pay Pal? They did answer in both cases - and I acknowledged and let them know, "Hey good job on the mod, thank you and your option of where you wanted it to go, was done." So they knew in both cases. But as I am learning - I grew up in a different generation and I just have to accept that P.K.T. is likely going the way of the DoDo Bird. I always believed, when you are giving a gift / thank you for a job well done. You let the party know: "Here, I really appreciated what you did and this is my way of saying, "Thanks!". Thanks for the feedback one and all. It was interesting to see where people are 'today'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtek Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well as stated, I did send PM's to the Mod Creators to first ask: .. Premium Membership?.. Pay Pal? They did answer in both cases - and I acknowledged and let them know, "Hey good job on the mod, thank you and your option of where you wanted it to go, was done." So they knew in both cases. But as I am learning - I grew up in a different generation and I just have to accept that P.K.T. is likely going the way of the DoDo Bird. I always believed, when you are giving a gift / thank you for a job well done. You let the party know: "Here, I really appreciated what you did and this is my way of saying, "Thanks!". Thanks for the feedback one and all. It was interesting to see where people are 'today'. That's not how charity works. While "Thanks!" is a true virtue, receiving 'Thanks!' is not a function of donation. Many donors pay in anonymous model for own reasons. And it rarely get rewarded.Modders distribute mods almost like charity, but many answer is "Thanks, you just broke my game!" But they keep doing it anyway. You just said in public you made donation to some people because you felt they are worth the $$. In a way, you are saying in public you think other people are not worth the $$. Plus, you are saying those people were rude didn't show thank to the $$. In the end, you insulted the donation in public so less people will do the $$ and less people will accept the $$.Aftermath, you just spent the $$ for that. People who answer to donors will evenly suffer. It generally causes so much problems than benefits.I guess that's why people prefer donating in anonymous and never reveal themselves at all. BUT interestingly, I am used to hear such dilemma from my people. I always tell them this story: "I know I'm making donation of kids in poverty more than the ma'am livin the next door. How? Because she yells at me how much donation she pay per a month. Does it give her good impression? Hell I know. I just shut up when she does that, and do her favors sometimes so even she didn't get rewarded she gets rewards by me in a way. She never know it. So I will never get rewarded. That's why I enjoy this relationship. If you don't get why, you are not charity material." The last sentence always worked on my people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skubblebubble Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 If you sent them a PM asking which they prefer, and they responded, and you donated,then a thank you from them would be in order. Now, if it just happened they went on vacation, got hit by a bus, well.... Could be a generational thing yes. I know I'd be saying thanks.(and no, that is NOT a request, hint etc for a donation. Besides, ya cain't donate BEER via the wee button):P I was wondering as mentioned above, how would an author know who did the donation.A PM of course would make it kind of obvious. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maload Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 i just wonder which kind of mod that people love to donate. i just want to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunderbot Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 But as I am learning - I grew up in a different generation and I just have to accept that P.K.T. is likely going the way of the DoDo Bird. Nothing to do with generations, really. Take a look at the comment sections of some low-brow newspapers and enjoy seeing every generation provide its fair share of asshats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 If you sent them a PM asking which they prefer, and they responded, and you donated,then a thank you from them would be in order. Now, if it just happened they went on vacation, got hit by a bus, well.... Could be a generational thing yes. I know I'd be saying thanks.(and no, that is NOT a request, hint etc for a donation. Besides, ya cain't donate BEER via the wee button) :tongue: I was wondering as mentioned above, how would an author know who did the donation.A PM of course would make it kind of obvious. :smile: .. I know that PAY PAL does keep records of all transactions: Money Received and from You to Them and Visa Versa. There is no "generic" transfers. It is specific. IE: I gave to "A" and I wanted to insure "A" did indeed get it. It is recorded. So yes, the Receiver is notified of the transaction, (at least I know I am) so I know how much was / is given - sent for record keeping. BTW - donations for Mods is indeed a taxable income Thus again, Pay Pal keeps records for a period of time as far back as when I joined Pay Pal with is over 16 years. I found that out from my Tax Guy, as we were talking and this topic came up. Obviously it also depends how much you make in "Donations" ... but yes, it is indeed taxable and one better make sure they know how much and when. CASE IN POINT: My tax guy told of 1 story where a Indi game producer did not 'sell' this games but went on a donation basis. He did not keep records, monitored his donations and did not realize it *IS* taxable. He had a no small IRS Headache when he found out he should be keeping records of his "donations". What was one small favor in his headache is that Pay Pal did have records for a certain period of time. The Indi Game Dev. learned his lesson and started to keep much better records of his "donations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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