Yet another crashing problem

[theloler19]

Good day! (Small warning: Bad English might be lurking in this post)

Since 2 days ago I'm struggling with constant game crashes. Its weird as they only happen when I move away from the spot I have saved on. Everything works perfectly fine before I move, ergo runs smoothly and everything around looks normal. To track down the issue I tried looking into game script logs but they don't show anything at they time of the ctd. The game is heavily modded yet worked (almost) perfectly fine until that moment. Recently I have used Save Game Script Cleaner in order to try make game run with less crashing and it worked fine until I have entered the canyon east of Helgen. I will provide any additional details if needed.

PS. The spot where I got stuck is on the right of Falkreath Stormcloak Camp cell here.

LOOT list thingy of all mods:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm

10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm

11 b ApachiiHair.esm

12 c ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

13 d EFFCore.esm

14 e MFVM.esm

15 f SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm

16 10 SkyUI.esp

17 11 Brawl Bugs CE.esp

18 12 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

19 13 FNIS.esp

20 14 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

21 15 Headtracking.esp

22 16 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp

23 17 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

24 18 Predator Vision.esp

25 19 Armor and Clothing for Vanilla Child Races.esp

26 1a imp_helm_legend.esp

27 1b WetandCold.esp

28 1c WetandCold - Ashes.esp

29 1d StealthierIllusion.esp

30 1e FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

31 1f Dr_BandolierDG.esp

32 20 Paarthurnax_Bypass.esp

33 21 Japanese Weapon Pack.esp

34 22 KatanaCrafting.esp

35 23 MarshArmor.esp

36 24 ArgonianMercArmor.esp

37 25 zz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp

38 26 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

39 27 Delphine Makeover.esp

40 28 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

41 29 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

44 2c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

45 2d RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp

46 2e KWTelescope.esp

47 2f SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp

48 30 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

49 31 JKs Skyrim.esp

50 32 3DNPC.esp

51 33 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

52 34 Northern Bathhouses.esp

53 35 RSChildren - Complete.esp

54 36 iWil_UselessShopOverhaul.esp

55 37 DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp

56 38 TES5R - AngelinesAromatics.esp

57 39 RealShelter.esp

58 3a RSPatch.esp

59 3b TES5R - BitsandPieces.esp

60 3c iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp

61 3d SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

62 3e SoS - The Wilds.esp

63 3f SoS - Civilization.esp

64 40 SoS - The Dungeons.esp

65 41 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

66 42 Inns and Taverns.esp

67 43 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

68 44 Immersive Weapons.esp

69 45 Nicer-Looking Khajiit.esp

70 46 nicer-looking argonians.esp

71 47 Dr_Bandolier.esp

72 48 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

73 49 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp

74 4a BirdsHFclean.esp

75 4b SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

76 4c RealisticWaterTwo.esp

77 4d Mrissi.esp

78 4e Laundry.esp

79 4f TES5R - HodandGerdursHouse.esp

80 50 TheScarlett.esp

81 51 WayshrinesIFT.esp

82 52 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

83 53 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

84 54 Run For Your Lives.esp

85 55 Cloaks.esp

86 56 SoSFC.esp

87 57 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

88 58 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

89 59 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

90 5a TES5R - FaendalsHouse.esp

91 5b TES5R - Sven and Hilde's house.esp

92 5c fallentreebridges.esp

93 5d SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

94 5e SMIM-Merged-All.esp

95 5f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

96 60 Immersive Patrols II.esp

97 61 ShowersInInns.esp

98 62 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

99 63 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

100 64 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

101 65 jkjsenhancedhotpools.esp

102 66 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

103 67 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

104 68 Serenity.esp

105 69 Immersive Music Temples.esp

106 6a Higeyosi Katana Pack.esp

107 6b RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

108 6c The Huntsman.esp

109 6d SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp

110 6e Immersive Music.esp

111 6f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

112 70 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

113 71 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

114 72 LightMossHall.esp

115 73 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

116 74 My Home Is Your Home.esp

117 75 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

118 76 ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp

119 77 dovahkiinrelax.esp

120 78 khajiitearrings.esp

121 79 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

122 7a Unique Uniques.esp

123 7b Insanity's Sorrow.esp

124 7c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

125 7d TKDodge.esp

126 7e Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp

127 7f TCoW Improvement.esp

128 80 Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp

129 81 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

130 82 SummonsLion.esp

131 83 GoToBed.esp

132 84 EatingSleepingDrinking.esp

133 85 Gri_BeastFeet.esp

134 86 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

135 87 EFFDialogue.esp

136 88 UIExtensions.esp

137 89 MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp

138 8a MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp

139 8b MFVM_ChildrenFight_Patch.esp

140 8c RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

141 8d Tempest.esp

142 8e FNIS_PCEA2.esp

143 8f Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

[Darkstyler35]

• Make sure your specs meet the recommended requirements for Skyrim and that you don't ask too much with too many resources demanding mods and too high settings...
• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Have you installed the skse patch or SSME ? (don't install both...)
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\Utilisateur\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit.
• Dangerous mods list.
• Because scripts remain in your savegame and are difficult to erase. It's always better to load a previous save when the script was not active, as explained in this article >> don't uninstall mods at mid-game.

  Even with save script cleaner, some scripts can remain active and lead to unstability.

• STEP guide.

[theloler19]

1. Checked. As I mentioned game runs smoothly all the time. Standard launcher picks ultra high settings.

2. Checked. I even did it just before starting the thread

3. I will try doing something with this tomorrow.

4. Same as 3.

5. Did that, SKSE was the first thing I have installed.

6. Checked, No changes

7.I was looking through ,but I didn't really found anything. I will read this in detail tomorrow.

8. Checked. Disabled both bird mods that were mentioned, yet problem persists. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

9. Checked. Since I don't know which mod is faulty I can't really tell which save should I use. As I was saying everything worked fine until I have reached this damned gulch.

10. I will have to spend some more time reading this, once again I will look this up tomorrow.

[Darkstyler35]

<3. I will try doing something with this tomorrow. 4. Same as 3.>

The game doesn't know how to handle conflicts in some cases such as leveled items lists and the only way to force it are those patches. It doesn't mean your problems will be resolved but this is an important step to stability.

 

<8. Checked. Disabled both bird mods that were mentioned, yet problem persists. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.>

Or may be concerned scripts are always active. Use save script cleaner after every uninstallation, this can help a bit.

 

Good luck

[theloler19]

Small update on my side: I made Bashed Patch and Merged Patch, problem persists. I think I will read some more troubleshooting guide and S.T.E.P. wiki

[Darkstyler35]

• Could you just untick ALL your mods from launcher / mod manager and try to reproduce the crash ?

If above didn't work and the game crashed, can you, always mods unticked, use the save script cleaner to clean your save and try again to reproduce the crash ?

[theloler19]

Always mods unticked? Also after ticking off everything (except official addons) game crashes after loading save file.

[Darkstyler35]

Hope you have also unticked the patches. I don't see anything else to do except reading carefully some of the troubleshooting links above.

[theloler19]

Alright, thank you for your support

UPDATE: I have decided to test game by unticking off plugins starting from the bottom and I found the culprit. It was Immersive Patrols. Thread can be closed now.

Edited July 13, 2016 by theloler19