Purr4me Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 NOTE: 20thcentury has a bsa archive, if you inspect it's contents you will find its' master is double loading as it is in that archive.AKA duplication once again. if you disable only it still loads no matter what, that tells you it's coming from the bsa and force loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZpIIlz Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 [X] BetterGamePerformance.esp <<<< please delete that, it already is loaded with stuff other mods need and will cause undue harm to game play. One less plugin to worry about. I honestly thought it was helping. [X] F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp <---that;s your abrupt weather change there, uninstall it. Don't need it anyway. I use Fellout. [X] 20th Century v5 ALIVE (TEST Container).esp <---inspect this plugin for 14mm data and any weapon mod listing that weapon, delete all references to that weapon along with any assets, it's a ported weapon anyway. 20th was removed for stolen or other assets / permissions and possibly other things I can't recall right now.What software are you using to edit .esp files? I tried using different tools in FOMM but can't figure it out. [X] AdjustedWeather_Anchorage.esp[X] AdjustedWeather_PointLookout.esp[X] AdjustedWeather_Main.esp list link here for that mod, it may be overriding other data and also causing conflicts. I need to know to be sure. +look at it ,its' out of order as well...Main is topside always. Hmm...something is suspicious here...I don't recall this mod...AH. Those esp files are from that damned ENB. http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/18753/? ============INSTALLATION============ENB version 0.2371) Extract files to the main folder2) Activate AdjustedWeather_Main.esp and/or AdjustedWeather_PointLookout.esp with Mod Manager3) Get yourself the ENB wrapper version d3d9.dll from enb site. http://www.enbdev.com/download_mod_falloutnv.htm4) Extract d3d9.dll to main folder4) Enjoy Step 2. I'll just be getting rid of those. Now Fellout is the only weather mod. Which I have re-activated now that the others have been removed. I also deleted the Project Reality and FWE comp patch as that is now useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZpIIlz Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 I really can't help but wonder about what people think when they come across this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) What software are you using to edit .esp files? I tried using different tools in FOMM but can't figure it out.lol...my brain sweetie, I've been around the block a few time and have good memory.http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/5104/?http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/34/?http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/82/?ehem..Fomm has all these tool in it, you just need to invest a bit of time and learn what they do but you do need to think about what it is your using them for?20th was available from day one in a complication pack and still sits here on the nexus. the original version. I seen you used older versions from foip and thought you went for Originality as for esp and esm inspection, I use every version of xedit ever made, both for correctness and to discover things hidden. IF you are aware a version will do something a newer version no longer does, it means the tool is set to ignore some things for a reason, but those reason do not mean squat if you know what to look for to begin with, things that should not be there that are hidden now are not hidden on earlier versions and you can repair bad plugins with that knowledge quickly...if they, the authors Hides stuff? well you very well are not going to ba able to gain the knowledge required in the first place to make any repairs of find out what's up ? Are you? Edited July 23, 2016 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Bettergameperformance results [undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 29973, Undeleted Records: 24801, Elapsed Time: 00:31[00:00] Saving: BetterGamePerformance.esp.save.2016_07_23_16_06_56[00:01] Done saving. that's a whole lot of conflict sitting there in one plugin. This was from a day when no one was up to speed on Game mechanics so mistakes were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZpIIlz Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 lol...my brain sweetie, I've been around the block a few time and have good memory. Impressive. ehem..Fomm has all these tool in it, you just need to invest a bit of time and learn what they do but you do need to think about what it is your using them for? 20th was available from day one in a complication pack and still sits here on the nexus. the original version. I seen you used older versions from foip and thought you went for Originality No no no lol...I went with whatever I could find. 20th century weapons is still a bit confusing to me because I don't fully understand why its sometimes called 19th and 20th CW and other times just 20th CW. I've heard it was removed because of theft technicalities yet available even though I was unable to find it. The version I have here is just whatever I came across I don't know much else. The only thing I know for CERTAIN, is that I want it.If there is a better version I should be using, please by all means, point it out. as for esp and esm inspection, I use every version of xedit ever made, both for correctness and to discover things hidden. I tried that and still couldn't figure it out. I'm literally just guessing here, but, I opened up FO3Edit, deselected all the plugins, selected only 20th Century v5 ALIVE (TEST Container).esp, and loaded it up. Now, I've expanded everything in there and I'm not seeing anything related to any 14mm data. But, I honestly don't even know if I'm looking in the right place.Hot? Cold?http://1.1m.yt/x6-oI94.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Editor ID type 14mm hit enter, you do this on all weapon related plugins and ID them.Not in 20th. looking else where. Edited July 24, 2016 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZpIIlz Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Bettergameperformance results [undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 29973, Undeleted Records: 24801, Elapsed Time: 00:31[00:00] Saving: BetterGamePerformance.esp.save.2016_07_23_16_06_56[00:01] Done saving. that's a whole lot of conflict sitting there in one plugin. This was from a day when no one was up to speed on Game mechanics so mistakes were made. Oh my, that is bad. Well, glad to be rid of it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Edit, you have it already xCALIBUR.esm[X] xCALIBR_20CW_v5.12.espthat's possibly a patch I made only once a master weapon mod, it included every weapon ever made, every mod ever made for weapons. Took me a whole month to sort it all out too. but, when all said and done? you can only shot 1 gun at a time. I wasted a month doing that. Edited July 24, 2016 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZpIIlz Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Entered '14mm' into 'Editor ID' in FO3Edit and searched through all the weapon-related plugins. Only thing that came up was this:http://4.1m.yt/W0RWeSl.jpg Apocalypse Armory, but nothing has "14mm" written on it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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