Wonder, what is conciousness?

[Wouter445]

this whole plot of chaos VS order is bit nonsense.

it all started with second law of Entropy: from a perfect order towards chaos.

 

this of course is all crap, let me liberate.

 

first if the whole Uni-verse was in a single point of space-time in perfect order their is basically nothing.

so this entropy kick in and started the big bang- blah blah blah.

but without some bit of chaos nothing would exist in the first place, so that means in the near future more stuff keeps existing till anything exist.

[NerevarII]

first if the whole Uni-verse was in a single point of space-time in perfect order their is basically nothing.

so this entropy kick in and started the big bang- blah blah blah.

Well the big bang is just a theory. Sorry I forgot about this thread :tongue:

Interesting stuff though folks.

 

As for God being created by our thoughts, I mean I believe in God but that's all I'll say about that, like you, not trying to push religion.

 

However, I believe our minds can bring about physiological changes on a much higher level. Let's use buddhist monks for example. They can do great things normal people cannot. Or, let's use the movie "Lucy" as an example. If you've seen it, remember how she started connecting with the individual atoms that made her, and she changed anything she wanted about her and [i think] she started to disintegrate because she lost control of herself?

 

I'm not saying that we can change ourselves in such a manner, but we can definitely alter things just by thinking/willing it. I've done it, others have done it. Not to the extent of "Lucy" but to give an example, I train in a martial art. I've been able to gain a certain appearance, and perform certain acts on a new level. I'm not sure if I can explain this well enough....it's not just a subconscious thing where, okay, I want to look one way, so subconsciously I'll move certain ways that achieve that result.

 

Maybe this examples better....changing your own eye color. You can believe me or not, I have no reason to lie (no offense, but you're just people on the internet who I have no reason to impress haha), but "willing" my eyes to turn a silver/gray color actually resulted in my eyes becoming more gray/silver. Not by a lot, but it was noticeable by me and others, and it wasn't permanent. It wasn't anything to go bragging about but it was cool that my thoughts made that happen.

I doubt myself, and everyone else, simply perceived it differently because I said so, especially since others noticed without me first asking "do my eyes look different/more gray or silver".

 

There's other things, but it makes me wonder. What are our minds truly capable of?

Edited September 16, 2016 by NerevarII

[TheMastersSon]

 

There's other things, but it makes me wonder. What are our minds truly capable of?

IMO it's self-evident that nature doesn't impose an upper limit to intelligence or capability, e.g. if an extraterrestial in a spaceship showed up tomorrow on our planet, would we automatically worship it as "God" just for making it here? It would simply be an older species of life that's had thousands (possibly millions) of years more than we've had to evolve. I mean even today in 2016 there's already credible talk about interstellar travel, time travel, artificial wormholes etc, who knows where (or when) we'll be 100 or 200 (or 500 or 1000 etc) years from now. :)

[NerevarII]

Haha I'm wondering where we'll be a measly 10 years from now. I believe time is nothing more than a fabricated construct of the mind. I don't think it really exists, but I can't completely disregard it, because I could be wrong. If time exists, I feel like maybe, there's a set point, or level, or rate, that a "ghost" of every piece of matter is left behind, stagnant, and remains there, to be visited by those of the present/future. I also think that maybe, everything is already laid out, and to visit the future, we're simply increasing the speed and which we move through the predefined matter. If that makes sense. Sorry, I'm not good at explaining these complicated thoughts well, but I know what I mean at least.

I think, if we had the technology, we could predict future events, by mapping and calculating every piece of matter. Like the butterfly effect. Let's say I blow air from my mouth. Those particles in turn bump into others, and make them move, or bounce, and so on and so forth. If I knew what exactly is in my breath, and what it's coming into contact with, I could map out it's path it would take, and the resulting positions of every other particle, and so on. So let's say, through an extensive process, my breath of air, caused a chain reaction that lead up to a bird changing it's flight direction, because somehow in the chain of events, it caused a shift in the wind, or weather. Then eventually, instead of the bird ending a point A and raising a bird family, it ended at point B, and ended up dying *cry*

Of course, I don't see us ever having that technology anytime soon.

And actually, I'm going to end my thoughts here, because I feel as if I'm about to go on a crazy rant that would make zero sense to anyone haha.

 

Essentially what I'm saying is, if time truly exists, maybe we're all riding a predefined path. But then you go into the whole loops thing, and anomaly's, and......s#*!'s confusing lol.

 

It's crazy to think that, we are, the universe experiencing itself.

I don't think anyone has an argument against that, right? Our bodies are mere vessels for our consciousness.