Game of the Year?

[Dowly]

Dowly and Lachdonin,

 

your the kind of guys that would buy a house and allow someone to own the land its on, then brag to everyone how great the people are that own the land are being to you, when you could and should of owned both. Cheers.

If that would be the only way to get the house and I really really really wanted it, then yes.

 

It's the same with Skyrim, you know it runs via Steam and by buying Skyrim you agree that it runs via Steam. If you don't agree to that, then you can always opt out and not buy it.

 

But you are entitled to your opinion. Have a good day. :thumbsup:

[Farem]

Sorry for the rant guys, I drank a few too many beers while I was trying to get the game going. I will admit I was pretty pissed, though. I was unable to play without crashing within minutes, and looking at a complete reinstall. It wasn't a single save that was corrupted, I went way back and none of them worked.

 

Having to replay all that I've done so I can get back to the point I was at is not going to be enjoyable for me. It's going to be a grind. No, I'm not ready to try a different character track to make the game "fresh" again. I wasn't done with the character I had, and that's the difference. It's one thing to start a new game because you want to. It's another to lose what you've done and have to start a new game.

 

Right click Skyrim in steam -> Properties -> Verify game cache.

Take LAA out and use the new Skyrim4gb

 

Yup, tried that. All verifying the game cache did for me was to note that one of my files (it didn't specify which one) was not verified and download another and overwrite it. I lost all the ini tweaks I made, including the mouse fix, and the game still crashes within minutes. It's not as though I was the only person who was unable to play after the "patch" though. I'm one of the many "It didn't work for me" people, though I (thankfully) didn't post anything saying so. I replaced the ini files with my backups, and still I have same mouse problem as the vanilla and the game still crashes within minutes.

 

I'm off to redo the troubleshooting I did last night in the hopes I did something incorrectly in my alcohol induced stupor. It was a really frustrating and irritating five hours that led up that rant, but it wasn't really constructive or necessary (though I did have some valid points). Cheers.

When do you crash exactly? If it's on loading a save game; did you ever change your uGridsToLoad to anything, and did you change it back after you verified?

[Dan3345]

I was an Elder Scrolls fanboy. I loved it. The whole sandbox idea, the modding community keeping it alive and fresh. Like many of you, I've been playing Oblivion since it came out. The mods made it all possible. Endless content, enjoyment, excitement and expectation... Always knowing there was more to come.

 

Like many of you, the joy I felt when I saw the first Skyrim trailer was indescribable. Like many of you, I waited long, long months to see the glory that was the continuation of the only game I really play. All the hype drove the excitement I felt at every release of new footage. I found myself reading the forums several times a day, hoping for a scrap of new information. I was starving for every new screenshot and dreaming of every new piece of video.

 

I was actually at the store at midnight, to get my copy of the Elder Scrolls V. I didn't care if it ran on Steam. I didn't care if it ran on kerosene, alcohol or if I had to ride a little bicycle attached to a flywheel.

 

All I cared was that I was going to get a new Elder Scrolls, with a new engine, and that the modders would only make it better. I knew I could count on the modding community to take the next Elder Scrolls game beyond anything that could be done in a commercial enterprise, and keep it alive for years. The modders would keep it ever growing, ever interesting, always great.

 

I knew it was Bethesda, and that they understood that it was the PC platform and the modding community that kept people like us interested in the Elder Scrolls. I just knew Bethesda understood that without the PC and modding community, the Elder Scrolls V was just another game and nothing really special.

 

So many posts by so many people about all the problems with the game. So many obvious instances that we dealt with as players that made it clear how the PC community was forgotten. Yet I remained steadfast. I would support this game and company that made it. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I appreciated it.

 

Now this. I get home from a long day of work. I'm off tomorrow. Been planning for days what quests I would pursue. I avoid anything that even smells of spoiler on the internet. I'm wondering what new and better armor I might find, and what weapon I can drool over. What quest, challenge, monster, puzzle shall I overcome? I sat down at my computer five hours ago. I've been trying to play ever since.

 

And why? From what I've read (none of which comes from Bethesda OR Steam, because they're not talking) it's because there was a forced download of a bogus patch so that the pirates would have a harder time pirating. Which they've already done. Which no patch could possibly stop.

 

Now I've got 51 hours invested in a character I care about, in a world I care about. And it's apparently gone. Have I tried every tip, trick and fix I can find on the entirety of the internet? Yes. Has anything worked? No. Does my ire reach heights that the Throat of the World can't even contemplate? Abso-frickin-lutely.

 

Bethesda has lost my trust. I am no longer a fanboy. Search my handle on the forums. Go way back. I was ever positive, ever trusting, ever hopeful and trusting. Some say lost trust is the hardest thing to earn back. I say it is lost hope.

 

I truly and honestly HOPE that what is happening is some of kind of mistake. I HOPE that some one just screwed up. I hope that this isn't the end of all of the high level modding of Elder Scrolls. I'm writing this at 0406 on the 22nd of November, 2011, United States EST. I HOPE it's fixed by the time I post this.

Dude, its a game... I love it too, and sure I have problems with it along with the majority but many of us did with oblivion as well. It happens, the UI was destined to happen. the performance was destined to happen. But the gameplay is there, so enjoy it. And as for your problem reinstalling the game worked for me. My saves worked again, and I was back to doing what I love. So don't give up just yet.

[Pineapplerum]

Well, it's not like saved games aren't corrupted when not using Steam. Unfortunately, sometimes these things happen.

[abisha]

 

and the people keep suporting company's like

 

steam

Microsoft

Bethesda

Etc...

 

really you guy's deserve nothing less, keep playing on you'r console.

each game, you loss a bit of you'r custumer freedom.

[Dowly]

 

and the people keep suporting company's like

 

steam

Microsoft

Bethesda

Etc...

 

really you guy's deserve nothing less, keep playing on you'r console.

each game, you loss a bit of you'r custumer freedom.

 

You should actually thank us who support these companies for without monetary gain, the companies wouldn't make anything for you to pirate. :biggrin:

[Lachdonin]

really you guy's deserve nothing less, keep playing on you'r console.

each game, you loss a bit of you'r custumer freedom.

 

Freedom is an illusion. It always has been. The instant you interact with another thing your freedom is compromised. All that matters is maximising your choice within the confines of your interaction.

 

Now, give me even a single example of how Steam limits your choice. If i can't logically counter it, i will cede the point.

Edited November 22, 2011 by Lachdonin

[buzzbomb]

@ Farem and Dan3345: It would crash whenever I walked out of the world cell I was in, regardless of which save I used, or if I fast traveled somewhere else. After another couple hours of mucking around with the 4gb loader and redoing my ini files, I think I've got my problems licked. I'll know for sure after a few hours of game play.

 

Man I was looking forward to drinking a few beers and playing into the wee hours of the morning, last night. As a single parent on a rotating shift at work, I don't often get the opportunity to just sit and play, and last night was that opportunity. I was pretty darn mad that it was taken away from me. Hopefully those problems are behind me now, and I can continue to enjoy the game from here on out. It was just running so well and was such a let down when they screwed it up. Let's hope the next patch fixes some issues, rather than creating more. Cheers.

[gblouin86]

This brings up other points... you've bought the DVD suppose you decide in a few years later to reinstall and revisit your game?... is Mommy and Daddy Corporation going to still be there supporting your old DVD and grant you the priviledge of unlocking something you've already bought a couple of years later? probably not, guess you'll have to keep buying new games, how convenient for them.

 

Considering Steam was released 8 years ago, was the one of the pioneers of digital distribution (which is clearly the future of the industry) and is the biggest digital distributor, I'd say it's very likely they will be around for as long as you'd want to play this game. Digital distribution is a lot more futureproof than any physical media.

 

P.S. Please learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.

[gblouin86]

@ Farem and Dan3345: It would crash whenever I walked out of the world cell I was in, regardless of which save I used, or if I fast traveled somewhere else. After another couple hours of mucking around with the 4gb loader and redoing my ini files, I think I've got my problems licked. I'll know for sure after a few hours of game play.

 

Man I was looking forward to drinking a few beers and playing into the wee hours of the morning, last night. As a single parent on a rotating shift at work, I don't often get the opportunity to just sit and play, and last night was that opportunity. I was pretty darn mad that it was taken away from me. Hopefully those problems are behind me now, and I can continue to enjoy the game from here on out. It was just running so well and was such a let down when they screwed it up. Let's hope the next patch fixes some issues, rather than creating more. Cheers.

 

Glad to hear you've managed to fix the problem but this statement is clearly not true. 51 hours of play in 11 days would indicate you get ample opportunities to sit and play. Jokes...