Fatalmasterpiece Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You guys griping do realize the construction set usually doesn't ship with the initial game right? So why are you b----ing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) I Liked Todd too, he's just so enthusiastic and eccentric (in the good way) but lately it just looks like he's saying things without thinking about them and following up on them. Soooo...He's a human being? Personally, having recently (as in the last 2 months) played Dead Island, i don't find Skyrim to be buggy at all. I suppose its all perspective. No, he's starting to be a politician. That's a difference. And I don't really mind the bugs. It's sort of part of Bethesda and not fully avoidable in game huge as this. It's more about the things which aren't bugs. But don't say you eprsonally test it to make sure it's perfect and then give us UI like that... and that is of course the most repeated thing, there are others you can't simply miss. Like essential story NPC not talking at all to you...and so on. Once more, if there will be no "Ooops, forgot to tell you you have to pay 34.99/month to use it" or "Ooops, you can only edit textures in CK" with CK, I think he may be forgiven :biggrin: Edit@FatalWhy tell so many times it will ship with the game and continue to say so untill the game is actually released without it? :biggrin: Edited November 24, 2011 by elvinkun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No, he's starting to be a politician. That's a difference. Politicians are people too :( ... Plus, you know, they avoid giving straight up answers in the off chance they may be wrong, whereas here we have a situation of someone giving us the wrong answer. From where i sit, he's doing the exact opposite of being a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No, he's starting to be a politician. That's a difference. Politicians are people too :( ... Plus, you know, they avoid giving straight up answers in the off chance they may be wrong, whereas here we have a situation of someone giving us the wrong answer. From where i sit, he's doing the exact opposite of being a politician. No, politicians give straight answers even tho they are fully aware that it's not the truth.There are instances where you can't think it's right, because you simply know whether it is or isn't so. Either way, didn't mean to turn it into a flame here, so pardon that part and take the joke for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No, he's starting to be a politician. That's a difference. Politicians are people too :( ... Plus, you know, they avoid giving straight up answers in the off chance they may be wrong, whereas here we have a situation of someone giving us the wrong answer. From where i sit, he's doing the exact opposite of being a politician. No, politicians give straight answers even tho they are fully aware that it's not the truth.There are instances where you can't think it's right, because you simply know whether it is or isn't so. Either way, didn't mean to turn it into a flame here, so pardon that part and take the joke for what it is. Man, politicians in your country must suck... Though, i suppose even a wrong answer is better than no answer at all.. And noted, i may have suspected a joke being involved, but with the Interwebs being what they are, intent is sometimes hard to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Man, politicians in your country must suck... Though, i suppose even a wrong answer is better than no answer at all.. And noted, i may have suspected a joke being involved, but with the Interwebs being what they are, intent is sometimes hard to read. I think they suck everywhere, only question is how much. :biggrin: And it's a joke, but half-serious there as well. The point is meant, the interpretation is not :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElijahHouck Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You see, if they said the Ck will come year after the game at the start, it would be cool, but this guy said it will be so amazing and so soon so many times that I lost count a year ago. As for perfecting the PC version, personally, no less... When several tenths of thousand of people get serious technical troubles, something doesn't add up here. Also, he didn't notice the UI and some of the more freaky bugs? And supporting modders by encrypting files on the run is also cool. I mean especially the part where they fixed the fix that allowed so many people to play without constant crashes. I just fear that when we actually get the CK, there will be some "Ooops" as well. And don't get me wrong, I love Skyrim, and that's why I actually care. I Liked Todd too, he's just so enthusiastic and eccentric (in the good way) but lately it just looks like he's saying things without thinking about them and following up on them. Which, as is mentioned above, reminds me of another developer who was once pretty cool.I will give you that, I didn't think about the UI issues. The UI is really the only thing holding back Skyrim on the PC, IMO. But what encrypted files? Skyrim's .bsa's, textures, meshes (with the new NIFTools for 3ds Max), etc. all open fine for me. If you're talking about how it simply uses Steam's DRM, then the argument there is more directed towards Valve rather than anyone at Bethesda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbler Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Why tell so many times it will ship with the game and continue to say so untill the game is actually released without it? :biggrin: My problem with this "complaint" is that it isn't true. Bethesda said they planned to have the CS ready for release when the game was released. I have no reason to doubt that this was true. Their plans didn't get fulfilled, but that's understandable; the manpower may have been needed to make the initial release/first day patch as bug-free as possible. Documentation of the CK in a form uninitiated users can use has gotta be hard. They succeeded in the latter. I didn't have a single crash the entire time I played the game before the Nov 21st patch. Some people surely did, but that's unavoidable given the potential combinations of CPUs/motherboards/GPUs out there - nothing can be optimized for every rig. Not even windows. The Nov 21st patch, which broke the game for me (pretty much - I can get up to 40 minutes of playing between crashes) is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarKirby3333 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 todd Howard is an optimisitic person who wants to do nice thingsZenimax Media is a big corporation which wants to make nice profits. guess which one is in charge of bethesda. i'm sure he's trying his best, and cursing at how much the lawyers won't let him say or do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headbomb Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) What is so bad about the PC version? I've experienced a grand total of probably four CTD's in my 60 hours playing. Better than FO3's constant crashing. *Bad console port*Getting stabbed in the balls is a more pleasant experience than any interaction involving the UI*Graphics in general (esp. textures and draw distances, and lack of DX11)*Mandatory steam Not that I agree with elvinkun. Bethesda made it quite clear that the CK wouldn't ship with the game. Todd "testing the PC version" was him going over PC requirements, not making sure the PC version didn't suck. As for "modding support", they'll release the CK and their development wiki. So I'm pretty sure that is indeed pretty sweet "modding support". Edited November 24, 2011 by headbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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