hundinman Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 My friends brother is a homosexual and I have accidentally offended her by popping off a gay joke here and there. It really pissed her off so I wonder if her brother is uptight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 its not because they want to be above everyone else, its cause they want to be treated as everyone else. if you are constantly ridiculeing them, you come off as hateful to them, but this is where you should reach an equilibrium. you can make the joke, but you should have respect for them, and respect for the fact that they can joke about you, and vice versa. @hundinman you do at least feel a connection to him on a friendly level and respect his individual rights, right? maybe if i wasnt clear on this before, i support their right to be married to others like them, although i dont see why they would want to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albareth Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Of course! Them not being allowed to is absolutely ludicrous, whether a child can get as good a care with two same-sex parents as with one male and one female parent I shaln't say, but about marriages... wtf? It's the same song over again - those of you who talk about it being 'disturbing for others to watch'... what right do you think you have to change the lives of others because it makes you feel better? If two people of any gender want to be married by law - they should indeed be allowed to be. Religious marriages I don't care nor know about - I'm not religious and whether or not it fits whatever religion you belong to is none of my business. But married by law? Not allowing it is discrimination of the worst kind imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 My friends brother is a homosexual and I have accidentally offended her by popping off a gay joke here and there. It really pissed her off so I wonder if her brother is uptight. I would say that if it is your friend who is offended, she is the one who has issues rather than her brother. How did he react? However there is the question of 'what is a joke'? Very often supposed humour plays on stereotypes (racial, religious, whatever) and is cruel rather than funny. I remember when I worked in the States (both New York and Los Angeles) jokes about 'Polacks' were considered amusing. I then worked in Chicago where many of the members of the office were of Polish descent and had Polish names. The 'jokes' to them were far from funny. So was your joke a humorous one of the kind your friend's brother might tell, or was it malicious? That might have affected her reaction too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtKing1239 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Well, here's the deal. I agree 100% with Malchik; jokes are funny based on setting, context, and content. I'm half Polish; and I find Polish jokes hilarious. I'm just of that personality... If someone makes a Polish joke, I'll fire back at them. However, not everyone wants to be joked with - especially if the joke is malicious in nature (as Malchik pointed out). You're a religious person, correct hundinman? You wish for the respect of others concerning your lifestyle choice, i.e. your religion. So, how is making gay jokes any different from someone ridiculing your God? If you want to play that game, at least play it fair. Otherwise, stop using God's opinion in your responses. If God is omnipotent and omnescient, it is impossible to know the nature of God, or suppose about God's nature. The proof we have of God is written word; supposedly breathed into the writers of the Bible so that His word is incorruptable. However, it is said in the Bible that you may love God, but that it is impossible to know God, or even gaze upon Him. Let your own morals guide you in this debate, and don't pull the "God says this" card. Do it from the standpoint of your own personal faith. This is not a religious debate; it is one of morality and human choice. So, please, let your opinions come from your heart... don't assume to know God's thoughts (if anything so divine could cognate on such a small scale as to be defined by one word), use your own mind to get your point across. Do some research. *Note, I am not personally religious, but I find that religion can be something pure and decent; if not for the corruptibility of mankind. If I could determine whether a "God" was real, I'd certainly love It's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonProphet Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I will start off by formally declaring that I am not a homosexual. I think that gay mariiage is alright. here's why: There is no god. Don't get me started. it won't be pretty. If homosexuality isn't genetic, then everybody should be able to live their life the way thew want. If homosexuality IS genetic, then isn't diversity what couses evolution. Opponents of gay marriage have no argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi_freak Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO....why? Cause thats just gross and wrong and any other bad nasty thing you can think of. This is really not a good argument. I'm gay and I'm still trying to figure out what the big deal is. Like others have said, not everyone believes in God and you shouldn't force your ideals or beliefs on anyone else. I thought this was a free country, makes me go hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 The debate in the U.S. Has two standpoints, both with rather good arguments. The pro-marriage standpoint is that if two people love each other, they should be allowed to be married. The anti-marraige standpoint is that it goes agianst God's will, and does not contribute population to society, as do heterosexual marraiges. I must say I agree with the anti-marraige argument. What are your thoughts? I say NO to it!!!!! :angry2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Thank you for that absolutely pointless reply. Give reasons to support your position or don't bother posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnoc Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 OK, this is how I see it: I don't have any problems with homosexual. It is their choice to do with their life what they want to do with it, as long nobody else is harmed or threatened. I may personally not like the idea of homosexuality, but this doesn't give me the right to jugde and condemn other people because of what they like or not like. For those who are Christians, remember what Jesus said in the mountain-sermon: "Do not judge or you will be jugded." So if a Christian condemns a homosexual, he does jugde and therefore will be jugded himself (if you believe in such things). The only objection I have is only a matter of formality: It shouldn't be called a marriage. The term "marriage" describes the union of a male and a female and so it would be uncorrect to call the union of a male and male or a female and a female "marriage". Of course, we could just redefine "marriage" into "union of two human beings". Then it would be a correct term again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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