Sudden increase in save game file size

[MaxShadow09]

Hi people, I'm having a weird problem. Yesterday everything was working fine, (except for the random crashes caused by having like 450 mods and half of them merged, but thats not why I am here now). However, today I noticed that saving was taking much longer than before. I checked my save files and they were increasing its size considerably. Yesterday they had a size of 20-35mb. From there, they started increasing its size gradually with each save, and now my last save of today is 93mb. That's insane! The only mods I installed since yesterday were these:

JK Skyrim (Improved Cities)

Sexy Whiterun, Winterhold, etc... (Texture mods)

Werewolf Mastery (Improved perk tree for werewolves)
Moonlight Tales Essentials (werewolf mod)

Real Feeding (werewolf mod)

 

However, removing all these mods didn't help. Even after cleaning my save, removing orphan scripts, resetting havok objects, and saving again, the file size doesn't go below 91MB. The Save Tool says I have a Papyrus size of 85MB, while yesterday it was 26MB. Any Idea of whats going on?

These are my specs:
6GB Ram

AMD Phenom 2 X2

Gforce GTX 750ti OC edition

My plugin list (it includes disabled and merged plugins):

 

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[Darkstyler35]

<and now my last save of today is 93mb> I've seen worse, but id doesn't mean this is good. You've probably uninstalled mods and have remaining script spamming your papyrus log and savegame. Don't uninstall mods at mid-game.

• Either you can load a save before you've uninstalled the mods and the mess happened.
• Either you use a tool to clean your save. Using save script cleaner (if bot already been tried) can help removing orphan scripts.
• Random CTDs troubleshoot.

Good luck.

[BlueGunk]

I'm in the same boat as you, MaxShadow - look up my post a few days earlier. Keen for any way I can use the current suite of save cleaners to clean my save.

[MaxShadow09]

I finally found the problem! It was Throwing Weapons Redux.

I noticed that my game was freezing quite often, even when not saving. So I decided to take a look at my papyrus logs and see if something was wrong. Suprisingly, after playing for half an hour, they had a size of 750MB!! I had to use GLogg to open such a large text file without killing my PC. Inside, there was an exaggerated amount of errors coming from an item inside a container, with this script: "TW_SCRIPT_WeaponSetup.ContainerExplosion()"

That script is from Throwing Weapons Redux, which allows you to set a fuse for grenades when you put them in a container, so they explode after a few seconds. Apparently, they got broken when I stored them in a General Stores container, the script started throwing errors indefinitely, which was bloating my save somehow, and freezing my game (probably because it was writing a log of 750MB). I disabled that mod, but when I tried to load my save, the game crashed. So I used the "Mod Editor" from the Save Game Script Cleaner, and deleted the forms and scripts from that mod. After loading my game, I saved again and the size was just 25mb!

I hope this helps you with the save bloating, BlueGunk. If it's not TWR, perhaps another mod is throwing a lot of errors. Check your papyrus logs.

[Darkstyler35]

Found this topic while searching. There are many interresting things to read there, such as skyrimtools and Crash fixes by meh321 that can also help loading some corrupted saves.

• Using crash fixes may help to fix some crashes.
• New SkyrimTools.