CTD after leaving character creation

[alltheseducks]

My game starts up alright (albeit slowly) but when I've tried to start a new game, I CTD only a few seconds after the racemenu closes. I don't think I have any missing master files, and I'm in the start area for Alternate Start, which I don't think is particularly taxing on my computer. I'd really like some help with this.

 

LO:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
10 a WinterholdDestruction.esm
11 b Campfire.esm
12 c ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
13 d ApachiiHairMales.esm
14 e ApachiiHair.esm
15 f ApachiiHairFemales.esm
16 10 WM Flora Fixes.esp
17 11 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
18 12 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
19 13 JSwords.esm
20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp
21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp
22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp
23 17 barenziahquestmarkers.esp
24 18 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
25 19 iHUD.esp
26 1a SkyUI.esp
27 1b lanterns.esp
28 1c Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
29 1d ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
30 1e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
31 1f Brawl Bugs CE.esp
32 20 RaceMenu.esp
33 21 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
34 22 Headtracking.esp
35 23 FISS.esp
36 24 TrueBrows.esp
37 25 Convenient Horses.esp
38 26 Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
39 27 RealisticRoomRental.esp
40 28 CLARALUX.esp
41 29 3DNPC.esp
42 2a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
43 2b ETaC - Complete.esp
44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
45 2d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
46 2e Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
47 2f Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
48 30 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
49 31 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
50 32 WetandCold.esp
51 33 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
52 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
53 35 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
54 36 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
55 37 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
56 38 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
57 39 lightweight potions and poisons.esp
CLARALUXify - ELFX Exteriors.esp
58 3a WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
59 3b ETaC - Falkreath.esp
60 3c JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
61 3d ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
62 3e ETaC - Riverwood.esp
63 3f Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
64 40 RealShelter.esp
65 41 ETaC - Morthal.esp
ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
66 42 ETaC - Rorikstead.esp
67 43 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
68 44 ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
69 45 ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp
70 46 winterhold_improvements.esp
71 47 WI_CWI_Patch.esp
72 48 ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp
CLARALUXify - JKs COMPLETE.esp
73 49 Immersive Whiterun.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
74 4a ETaC - Ivarstead.esp
75 4b ETaC - Winterhold.esp
76 4c ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
77 4d Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
78 4e Immersive Solstheim.esp
79 4f Holidays.esp
80 50 ETaC - Karthwasten.esp
81 51 Immersive Stonehills.esp
82 52 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
83 53 Inigo.esp
84 54 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
85 55 AmazingFollowerTweaks MCM.esp
86 56 RSPatch.esp
87 57 Better Vampires.esp
88 58 VL No AoE Drain.esp
89 59 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
90 5a Immersive Shors Stone.esp
91 5b Cloaks.esp
92 5c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
93 5d Frostfall.esp
94 5e enterancetoqasmoke.esp
95 5f waterfallshack.esp
96 60 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp
97 61 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
98 62 Immersive Weapons.esp
99 63 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
100 64 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
101 65 Hunterborn.esp
102 66 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
103 67 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
104 68 1nivWICCloaks.esp
105 69 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
106 6a ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
107 6b TradeRoutes.esp
108 6c RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
109 6d RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
110 6e RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
111 6f RND_USKP-Patch.esp
112 70 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
113 71 TimingIsEverything.esp
114 72 _tck_SpellCrafting.esp
115 73 HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring DI.esp
116 74 Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp
117 75 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
118 76 Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
119 77 Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp
120 78 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
121 79 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
122 7a FreckleMania.esp
123 7b InigoMCM.esp
124 7c RaceMenuOverlays.esp
125 7d vImmersiveBeds.esp
126 7e WMFF Inigo Patch.esp
127 7f CommonClothes.esp
128 80 PIVariety.esp
129 81 Female Pants.esp
130 82 HHoS Ancient Shrine DI.esp
131 83 WindhelmFR.esp
132 84 WindhelmFRGeneric.esp
133 85 AFT_iNPCFix.esp
134 86 TakeNotes.esp
135 87 calyps-bosmer.esp
136 88 ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
137 89 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
138 8a MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
139 8b mintylightningmod.esp
140 8c Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
141 8d RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
142 8e Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp
143 8f FNIS.esp
144 90 FNISspells.esp
145 91 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
146 92 TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp
147 93 _tck_camp_PortableAltar.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp
148 94 treehouse.esp
149 95 Equipping Overhaul.esp
150 96 Imaginator BETA.esp
151 97 CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp
152 98 Convenient Horse Herding.esp
153 99 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
154 9a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
155 9b CACO-Ordinatored.esp
156 9c Ordinator - Dragonborn Respec.esp
157 9d ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +10%.esp
158 9e ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp
159 9f ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +50%.esp
160 a0 ABT - Loot Arrows -25%.esp
161 a1 ABT - Merchants Arrows -50%.esp
162 a2 ABT - Progressive Damage (Vanilla).esp
163 a3 ABT - Recover 50% Less Arrows and Bolts.esp
164 a4 TradeRoutes-ETaC-Patch.esp
165 a5 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
166 a6 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
167 a7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
168 a8 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
169 a9 ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp

 

 

Specs:

 

Processor: i5-6600K @ 3.5 ghz
RAM: 12 gb
OS: 64 bit windows 7
Graphics card: nvidia geforce gtx 980

 

 

Full disclosure, I'm somewhat very sleep-deprived, so I may have missed something obvious.

 

Thank you for your help

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• CTD at the start of the game troubleshoot.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Verify gamecache.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit. depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describe the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• Ensure you're not using redundant memory patches, such as SSME, skse.ini; crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 enabled, or safety load. Preferably, use crash fixes or skse memory patch.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Skyrim requirements wiki.
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• STEP troubleshooting page.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• an efficient guide to build your game : STEP.
• Crashdump analysis.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors, thanks to Arthmoor.
• Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner. (tested)

Hope this helps.

[alltheseducks]

 

Hope this helps.

Thank you so much, I'll get right on these!

[Xerainiac]

I have a very similar problem. After i finish creating me character, all the MCM menus load up and finish then for about 15 seconds I just run around to make sure everything is stable then it crashes same time, all the time. Looked in the Papyrus logs and couldn't find anything that stood out in particular.

 

Here is my load order. I could really use the help, as I've already given up on this once.

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ApachiiHair.esm

LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm

7 7 SMSkyrim.esp

8 8 arnima.esm

9 9 RigmorCyrodiil.esm

10 a Campfire.esm

11 b Gray Fox Cowl.esm

12 c Vigilant.esm

13 d RigmorCyrodiil - Textures.esm

14 e RigmorCyrodiil - Sounds.esm

15 f SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp

16 10 Immersive Wenches.esp

17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp

18 12 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

19 13 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

20 14 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

22 16 Cutting Room Floor.esp

23 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

24 18 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp

25 19 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

26 1a Undeath.esp

27 1b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

28 1c Joy of Perspective.esp

29 1d AMatterOfTime.esp

30 1e Vivid WeathersSE.esp

31 1f IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

32 20 Rigmor.esp

33 21 iNeed.esp

34 22 iNeed - Extended.esp

35 23 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

36 24 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

37 25 Helgen Reborn.esp

38 26 OBIS SE.esp

254 FE 0 CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp

39 27 Ambriel.esp

40 28 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

41 29 GrandPaladinSE.esp

42 2a Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

43 2b Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

44 2c Point The Way.esp

45 2d OwnCivilWar.esp

46 2e ZIA_Complete Pack.esp

47 2f Better Vampires.esp

48 30 Immersive Weapons.esp

49 31 The Brotherhood of Old.esp

50 32 Clockwork.esp

51 33 Immersive Encounters.esp

52 34 Dwarfsphere.esp

53 35 Cloaks.esp

54 36 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp

55 37 Inigo.esp

56 38 fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

57 39 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp

58 3a Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp

59 3b konahrik_accoutrements.esp

60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp

61 3d SpellResearch.esp

62 3e WZOblivionArtifacts.esp

63 3f Frostfall.esp

64 40 DBM_IW_Patch.esp

65 41 DBM_AHO_Patch.esp

66 42 LeafRest OnePiece.esp

67 43 TheIsland.esp

68 44 Arcanum.esp

69 45 Ars Metallica.esp

70 46 Tools of Kagrenac.esp

71 47 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp

72 48 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp

73 49 DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp

74 4a Recorder Follower Base.esp

75 4b RigmorCyrodiilPatch.esp

76 4c Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp

77 4d Darkend.esp

78 4e DBM_CRF_Patch.esp

79 4f ForgottenCity.esp

80 50 DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp

81 51 ApotheosisDemo.esp

82 52 DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp

83 53 treasure_hunt.esp

84 54 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

85 55 ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp

86 56 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp

87 57 icebladeofthemonarch.esp

88 58 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp

89 59 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp

90 5a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

91 5b Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp

92 5c beltfastenedquivers.esp

93 5d BetterTreasuryHouse.esp

94 5e Blaze Of Eventide.esp

95 5f CBBE.esp

96 60 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

97 61 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

98 62 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

99 63 DaedricDawnbreakerRNoStagger110.esp

100 64 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

101 65 DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp

102 66 Faction Crossbows.esp

103 67 Eimar's Edge.esp

104 68 Footprints.esp

105 69 FNIS.esp

106 6a ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

107 6b HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp

108 6c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

109 6d iHUD.esp

110 6e Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

111 6f Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

112 70 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

113 71 JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp

114 72 Killable Children.esp

115 73 KS Hairdo's.esp

116 74 LeftHandRings.esp

117 75 DarkerNights.esp

118 76 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp

119 77 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp

120 78 DBM_IA_Patch.esp

121 79 DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp

122 7a DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp

123 7b DBM_DGE_Patch.esp

124 7c DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp

125 7d DBM_Apophysis_Patch.esp

126 7e DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp

127 7f DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp

128 80 DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp

129 81 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp

130 82 SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp

131 83 SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp

132 84 SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp

133 85 Marry Me Serana.esp

134 86 Unique Uniques.esp

135 87 SOSRaceMenu.esp

136 88 1nivWICCloaks.esp

137 89 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

138 8a WetandCold.esp

139 8b Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

140 8c UnreadBooksGlow.esp

141 8d 10 arrows attached.esp

142 8e 3 minutes.esp

143 8f DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp

144 90 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp

145 91 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

146 92 INFERNAL FLAME.esp

147 93 INFL - Rifle Plugin.esp

148 94 SwordOfTheSeeker.esp

149 95 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

150 96 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

151 97 OblivionWeapons.esp

152 98 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp

153 99 Public Executions.esp

154 9a RaceMenu.esp

155 9b XPMSE.esp

156 9c RaceMenuPlugin.esp

157 9d PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

158 9e DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp

159 9f Skycutter.esp

254 FE 1 CWICRFSEPatch.esp

160 a0 TOK_CWI_Patch.esp

161 a1 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

162 a2 RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

163 a3 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

164 a4 AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp

165 a5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

166 a6 SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp

167 a7 TheIsland_AlternateStartAddon.esp

168 a8 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

169 a9 RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp

170 aa SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp

254 FE 2 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

254 FE 3 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

254 FE 4 RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp

171 ab RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

172 ac RWT Lod Fix.esp