Amras0808 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Most of the shouts dont have to cause damage, some are just plain awesome (Calling a dragon is epic no matter how long the countdown). The disarm spell actually does disarm, get all three shout before judging it (i constantly use it and laugh at their pitiful attempts to kill me) . Unrelenting force is simply the best, its better than all the rest. Fire breath and ice breath arent great. Ice form has so many advantages if you have any creativity ( if your on a hill and freeze a dude, he tumbles all the way down and dies ) animal allegiance is useful to collect pelts (kill them when they are under your power). Throw voice is an essential when your a rogue (great for making hard to shoot at enemies appear in your line of sight ) storm call makes you look badass.they are only underpowered if you think this game is supposed to be like COD, it doesnt have to do lots of damage, its their ability to do many different effects and change the tide of battle in unsuspected ways that make them awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naikado2 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I just wish that I had shorter cooldowns so I could play with them more. XD They're pretty strong if you use them against the right enemies- Yol itself can pretty much wipe out the massive waves of bandits I'm usually faced with. They're not meant to be one-hit KO's against everything in the universe, but you can get a good amount of leverage from them in good situations. You just gotta figure out when to use em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekrafilia Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I got frustrated on one part of a quest and let loose with 'unrelenting force' at the inn in Markarth....cleared the place...loved it, and those idiot guards wanted to arrest me? I don't think so :devil: ( Thank the gods I save a lot ) :whistling: Anyway, I Am not really sure if the shouts get stronger as you do or what. I do wish they would recharge at a much faster rate. Do the shouts get stronger as you do? On the PC, the longer you hold down the key, the stronger the shout is suppose to be...I'm not sure this is the case. Sometimes it seems stronger, other times it looks like nothing but a big sneeze. I dunno.... There is an amulet that reduces shout recharge time by 20%. Don't remember the name, but I never wear it, I don't shout much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naikado2 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I got frustrated on one part of a quest and let loose with 'unrelenting force' at the inn in Markarth....cleared the place...loved it, and those idiot guards wanted to arrest me? I don't think so :devil: ( Thank the gods I save a lot ) :whistling: Anyway, I Am not really sure if the shouts get stronger as you do or what. I do wish they would recharge at a much faster rate. Do the shouts get stronger as you do? On the PC, the longer you hold down the key, the stronger the shout is suppose to be...I'm not sure this is the case. Sometimes it seems stronger, other times it looks like nothing but a big sneeze. I dunno.... There is an amulet that reduces shout recharge time by 20%. Don't remember the name, but I never wear it, I don't shout much.That would be Talos' amulet, I believe. His blessing also does the same. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertex23 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Shouts are useless? Strategy be dammed! I'm just going to rambo everything! Rus Ro Dah - Blowing back an entire group of enemies to get you more distance to cast / shoot arrows? Nah - Going to complain that I get swarmed too easily.Fire Breath - Free fire spell that catches targets on fire thus allowing you to cast a double casted Fireball for increased damage? Nope - Just going to complain about my mana problems.Whirlwind Sprint - Free sprint? Very nice gap closer? Negative - Going to complain that archers destroy me.Ice Form - Good way to lock down a boss to stop them from attacking? Naw - Those darn two handers destroy me, so I'm going to try and just dodge the attack and die. Then complain. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardivex Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 I mastered marked for death and it does almost no damage, Kyne's Peace, like the wildlife is really strong... Force Shout is pretty much what I said and you can pretty much 1 hit "weaker mobs" anyways, and while you stun your boss, you could have used elemental fury (one of the few useful shots) to kill it in 3 seconds, and you talk about using them in the right time? Uhh... "Theres an enemy! I will disarm it! Oh wait it didn't worked... I will fear it! Didn't worked too... Fire breath! Low damge... Clear skies! If it can clear a wind storm it can certally do damage right? WRONG! What about making the wildlife fight for me! Low damage..." And so on... Marked for death isn't about damage, or Kyne's peace or clear skies and so on. Why does everything have to do damage? I suppose you expect the sprint shout to do damage? Well, it doesn't so it must be underpowered. Remember not everyone has all the shouts or has them mastered, as you obviously do, so what you find useless might not be for others.If marked for death isn't about damage it is about what? I didn't said Kyne's Peace is about damage, just that the wildlife is so weak that theres no reason to use it, and clear skies... Like I said: "Clear skies! If it can clear a wind storm it can certally do damage right?" DOn't you think there's a logic to that? So if it can't do damage what do you use clear skies for? Oh yeah, you use it twice in the entire game, to reach Parthanax and in Sovngrade, and then? And also, Mastered Shouts are the ones with all 3 words, and they should be strong right? WRONG! Soooo... yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardivex Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 The disarm spell actually does disarm, get all three shout before judging it.I've got all 3 shout's and it doesn't work on anything. "Unrelenting force is simply the best, its better than all the rest. animal allegiance is useful to collect pelts (kill them when they are under your power)."The only use for unrelenting force isfor pushing people of cliffs but what if you are not close to a cliff? Useless... And yeah let's use animal allegiance, like animals are really hard! I think you can solo an animal if your level 81, but im not sure... "Throw voice is an essential when your a rogue (great for making hard to shoot at enemies appear in your line of sight )"Yeah and it's useful because it has a short cooldown "they are only underpowered if you think this game is supposed to be like COD"What? Are you comparing Skyrim with COD? And answer me, how does shouts have anything to do with COD? Are you high or something? "it doesnt have to do lots of damage, its their ability to do many different effects and change the tide of battle in unsuspected ways that make them awesome!"Yeah sure, or you can simply attack with your weapon/magick that it will be 900% more effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardivex Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Shouts are useless? Strategy be dammed! I'm just going to rambo everything! Rus Ro Dah - Blowing back an entire group of enemies to get you more distance to cast / shoot arrows? Nah - Going to complain that I get swarmed too easily.Fire Breath - Free fire spell that catches targets on fire thus allowing you to cast a double casted Fireball for increased damage? Nope - Just going to complain about my mana problems.Whirlwind Sprint - Free sprint? Very nice gap closer? Negative - Going to complain that archers destroy me.Ice Form - Good way to lock down a boss to stop them from attacking? Naw - Those darn two handers destroy me, so I'm going to try and just dodge the attack and die. Then complain. Just saying.Yup im complaining a lot about the stuff you said here, also, im sorry, I didn't know SKyrim was a strategy based game, "Rus Ro dah"? Fus* Roh* Dah. "Going to complain that I get swarmed too easily" Im sorry but bows kinda suck, and you can avoid being swarmed and back off when they are getting close, you can press the "S" key you know. "Just going to complain about my mana problems" Yay! Instead of 10 points of damage im going to do 20!!! "Going to complain that archers destroy me" Press ALT to sprint, and like archers do a lot of damage anyway, even on master they simply don't. " Good way to lock down a boss to stop them from attacking" or if you really wanna use a shout (I don't know why you do), you can use Elemental Fury, to kill the boss in 3seconds, wich is one of the shouts i pointed out to be one of the few actually useful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekrafilia Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I mastered marked for death and it does almost no damage, Kyne's Peace, like the wildlife is really strong... Force Shout is pretty much what I said and you can pretty much 1 hit "weaker mobs" anyways, and while you stun your boss, you could have used elemental fury (one of the few useful shots) to kill it in 3 seconds, and you talk about using them in the right time? Uhh... "Theres an enemy! I will disarm it! Oh wait it didn't worked... I will fear it! Didn't worked too... Fire breath! Low damge... Clear skies! If it can clear a wind storm it can certally do damage right? WRONG! What about making the wildlife fight for me! Low damage..." And so on... Marked for death isn't about damage, or Kyne's peace or clear skies and so on. Why does everything have to do damage? I suppose you expect the sprint shout to do damage? Well, it doesn't so it must be underpowered. Remember not everyone has all the shouts or has them mastered, as you obviously do, so what you find useless might not be for others.If marked for death isn't about damage it is about what? I didn't said Kyne's Peace is about damage, just that the wildlife is so weak that theres no reason to use it, and clear skies... Like I said: "Clear skies! If it can clear a wind storm it can certally do damage right?" DOn't you think there's a logic to that? So if it can't do damage what do you use clear skies for? Oh yeah, you use it twice in the entire game, to reach Parthanax and in Sovngrade, and then? And also, Mastered Shouts are the ones with all 3 words, and they should be strong right? WRONG! Soooo... yeah... I give up. :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewWaltfeld Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) and the famous "FUS ROH DAH!" is sorta useless too, I mean, you push your enemy really far away from you but it does no damage too so it was pretty much a waste because they will probably get up by the time you are close to them again, Fight near a cliff edge, tall castle tower, mountain top etc. Get them in between you and edge. Then tell me the shout is useless. Unrelenting force is perhaps one of the most useful shouts ever. Heck, I've intentionally ran into a group of bandits, argo'ed them all and then ran to a tall place to do this. There is plenty of tall places in skyrim that you can this in, however like anything else, it's a situational shout. FYI - I've killed 10 bandits all at once this way by knocking them off the cliff. My personal favorite is the shout that slows down time. That combined with my quick reflexes perk with blocking a power attack means that I can sometimes literally kill 2-3 guys while they are going slow motion. Edited November 28, 2011 by AndrewWaltfeld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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