LE Shout/Dragon Overhaul

[gofortheko]

Dragons are weak, however blood and elder dragons are not. I think an elder dragon can beat alduin in a one of one fight.

[DemonfireNinja]

Dragons are weak, however blood and elder dragons are not. I think an elder dragon can beat alduin in a one of one fight.

 

See, off topic I have to say, that is just wrong right there, Alduin should be near invincible.

[Terralventhe]

Personally, I'd like some genuine clashing between Shouts. I once used a Frost Breath Shout in a direct opposition to an Ancient Dragon's Fire Breath and they both just went right through each other and hit their targets individually. You'd think that such raw concentrated power from opposite ends of the spectrum, both breath attacks at that, would somehow cancel each other out or cause a minor explosion.

[cooltrickle]

Personally, I'd like some genuine clashing between Shouts. I once used a Frost Breath Shout in a direct opposition to an Ancient Dragon's Fire Breath and they both just went right through each other and hit their targets individually. You'd think that such raw concentrated power from opposite ends of the spectrum, both breath attacks at that, would somehow cancel each other out or cause a minor explosion.

 

I had the same thought myself. In one fight, I tried to interrupt being barbecued by using my frost breath. I figured the minimum it would do, is stop any more fire reaching me, but nope.

 

I made a similar request as the OP, in this thread:

 

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/470963-revamped-dragon-combat-and-shouts/page__p__3865408__fromsearch__1#entry3865408

[Terralventhe]

Indeed. I figure that a decent method to handle it, perhaps, would be to make it so that the front-most portion of your breath attacks and Unrelenting Force could have an effect similar to a Ward spell? i.e. it functions as a barrier that deflects opposition. Would also mean you could thus Shout arrows out of the sky too.

[cooltrickle]

Indeed. I figure that a decent method to handle it, perhaps, would be to make it so that the front-most portion of your breath attacks and Unrelenting Force could have an effect similar to a Ward spell? i.e. it functions as a barrier that deflects opposition. Would also mean you could thus Shout arrows out of the sky too.

 

I like the ward idea. Here's a possibly easier method: when you use a frost breath shout, it also triggers a brief active affect effect of fire resistance, maybe 50% or more. Fire breath could trigger frost resistance, in a similar way. By brief, I mean about 5-8 seconds.

 

I'm not that familiar with wards as I don't use them. Is there a ward that gives you arrow deflection? If so, tying unrelenting force to a brief arrow resistance active effect, would be just as simple.

Edited December 1, 2011 by cooltrickle

[Terralventhe]

I can't remember precisely if the Ward spell deflects arrows, admittedly. I know it does a decent job of blocking spells and dragon breath until it shatters into bits from overload.

[Kairo29]

The opposite element breath clashing should have been done at launch! It makes sense that way vs a who can bbq or freeze who first

[Homitu]

I made this post before I found this thread: http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/483060-dragon-shout-caster/

 

I agree with most of what has been suggested in this thread. The shout system and dragons all need a revamp. So much potential there currently unfulfilled.