CTD in Bleak Falls Barrow

[alltheseducks]

I keep CTD-ing in the middle of Bleak Falls Barrow, at the part with the first spiral ramp thing where you're attacked by skeevers. I have a vague memory of some sort of log that helps with this kind of thing, but I can't remember clearly.

 

LO:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
7 7 WinterholdDestruction.esm
8 8 Campfire.esm
9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
10 a ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
11 b WM Flora Fixes.esp
12 c JSwords.esm
13 d ApachiiHair.esm
14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm
15 f ApachiiHairMales.esm
16 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp
17 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp
18 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp
19 13 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
20 14 SkyUI.esp
21 15 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
22 16 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
23 17 RealisticRoomRental.esp
24 18 CLARALUX.esp
25 19 mintylightningmod.esp
26 1a ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
27 1b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
28 1c iHUD.esp
29 1d 3DNPC.esp
30 1e ETaC - Complete.esp
31 1f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
32 20 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
33 21 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
34 22 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
35 23 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
36 24 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
37 25 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
38 26 WetandCold.esp
39 27 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
40 28 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
41 29 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
42 2a CLARALUXify - ELFX Exteriors.esp
43 2b WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
44 2c JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
45 2d ELFXEnhancer.esp
46 2e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
47 2f RealShelter.esp
48 30 ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
49 31 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp
50 32 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
51 33 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
52 34 ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
53 35 RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
54 36 Holidays.esp
55 37 ETaC - Complete Holidays Patch.esp
56 38 Immersive Whiterun.esp
57 39 CWIELnFXPatch.esp
58 3a Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
59 3b Immersive Solstheim.esp
60 3c Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
61 3d Inigo.esp
62 3e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
63 3f Inconsequential NPCs.esp
64 40 Cloaks.esp
65 41 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
66 42 Frostfall.esp
67 43 1nivWICCloaks.esp
68 44 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
69 45 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp
70 46 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
71 47 CACO_ETaC_Patch.esp
72 48 CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
73 49 Immersive Weapons.esp
74 4a WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
75 4b waterfallshack.esp
76 4c RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
77 4d Hunterborn.esp
78 4e JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
79 4f ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
80 50 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
81 51 TradeRoutes.esp
82 52 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
83 53 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
84 54 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
85 55 ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp
86 56 TradeBarter.esp
87 57 TradeRoutes-ETaC-Patch.esp
88 58 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
89 59 TimingIsEverything.esp
90 5a _tck_SpellCrafting.esp
91 5b _tck_camp_PortableAltar.esp
92 5c HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring DI.esp
93 5d treehouse.esp
94 5e Equipping Overhaul.esp
95 5f silverfish.esp
96 60 Imaginator BETA.esp
97 61 CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp
98 62 Convenient Horse Herding.esp
99 63 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
100 64 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
101 65 Ordinator - Dragonborn Respec.esp
102 66 CACO-Ordinatored.esp
103 67 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
104 68 ABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp
105 69 ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp
106 6a ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
107 6b ABT - Loot Arrows -25%.esp
108 6c ABT - Merchants Arrows -50%.esp
109 6d ABT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp
110 6e ABT - Recover 50% Less Arrows and Bolts.esp
111 6f Convenient Horses.esp
112 70 Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
113 71 Better Vampires.esp
114 72 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
115 73 VL No AoE Drain.esp
116 74 FISS.esp
117 75 TakeNotes.esp
118 76 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
119 77 lanterns.esp
120 78 Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp
121 79 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
122 7a Hunterborn-Skytest Patch.esp
123 7b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
124 7c WAFR_CCOR_Ordinator_Patch.esp
125 7d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
126 7e Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp
127 7f Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
128 80 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
129 81 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
130 82 TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp
131 83 GoToBed.esp
132 84 calyps-bosmer.esp
133 85 InigoMCM.esp
134 86 AmazingFollowerTweaks MCM.esp
135 87 WMFF Inigo Patch.esp
136 88 RaceMenu.esp
137 89 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
138 8a RaceMenuOverlays.esp
139 8b TrueBrows.esp
140 8c FreckleMania.esp
141 8d JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
142 8e WindhelmFR.esp
143 8f WindhelmFRGeneric.esp
144 90 Headtracking.esp
145 91 HHoS Ancient Shrine DI.esp
146 92 PIVariety.esp
147 93 Animations.esp
148 94 Female Pants.esp
149 95 FNIS.esp
150 96 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
151 97 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
152 98 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
153 99 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp
154 9a Vividian - Windy Clouds - CoT.esp
155 9b RSPatch.esp
156 9c Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
157 9d Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
158 9e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
159 9f Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
160 a0 ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp

 

 

Thank you so much for helping. If there's any more useful information I can provide, I will do my best to do so.

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• CTD in a particular cell / location.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Verify gamecache.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page. You may use this updated guide to clean your masters. It contains the same automated cleaning procedure as Gopher explains in his video + repeating once for Dawnguard.esm + some selective manual cleaning.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may also do a check errors.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins button".
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.
• You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.
• If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM + a heavily modded game and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.
• Direct-x 9 C, 9 C update.
• In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.
• Skyrim requirements wiki.
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• STEP troubleshooting page.
• An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Crashdump analysis.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus logging
• Shut down background programs such as intellipoint, fan manager, etc... Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)

/// Credits : these persons deserve their kudos, (among others) not referenced here by an accessible profile but provide help with articles and other stuff linked above.

• Thallassa / Matortheeternal / Arthmoor / BorisVorontsof / GamerPoets / Gopher / TheCompiler (+ all the STEP team) / Luco81 (NMM forum) / Tannin42 /

Hope this helps.

[alltheseducks]

 

Thank you so much! This solved my CTD problem. However, now something else is happening; when I start a game -loading a save or starting new- the load screen will freeze and my cursor will turn into a loading circle. If I click, the message comes up that Skyrim isn't responding. It seems to do well enough if I just wait; it will load properly. But that it's happening at all is concerning to me. It happens even when I've disabled all my mods. The only time it doesn't happen is when I load vanilla from steam (I use MO). I hate to intrude on your kindness, but you've helped me quite a lot all ready, and I'd be extremely grateful if you could help with this as well. If not though, that's absolutely not a problem; I thank you for everything you've done.

 

EDIT: That seems to have resolved itself too (I think it's because I forgot to close TESVEdit before I started the game). Again, thank you so, so much for your help!

Edited August 25, 2016 by alltheseducks

[Darkstyler35]

You're welcome.

• <the load screen will freeze and my cursor will turn into a loading circle> = infinite loading screen, install crash fixes with the allocator enabled, see /// Settings / memory.
• <It seems to do well enough if I just wait. It happens even when I've disabled all my mods. The only time it doesn't happen is when I load vanilla from steam (I use MO).> you probably have heavy scripted mods using skse, install also safety load, see /// Settings / memory.
• <It happens even when I've disabled all my mods.> scripts are always active and remains in savegame, that's why it is strongly advised to not uninstall a mod at mid-game.
• Just in case, run the save scripts cleaner, it may get rid of some scripts, (probably not all) that are spamming papyrus + your savegame. See /// Save game.
• You may also use the other sections, this will help your game, (cleaning masters and mods + bashed patch and merged patch, etc...)

Good luck with your game.