Invisible Helmet mesh issue

[vrag98]

Having a weird issue with various helmets (Guard helms, Masks, Plate helms etc.) in the game causing the NPC and Player Characters to basically turn bald regardless of what they have equipped or what hair they have. I've been brushing it off for a while cause I can just hide helms and avoid the issue, but I really like the look of some of the Mask mods and the AFT combat helmet feature is pretty cool. it's also worth noting some helms still work, such as Elven, Hide, Ancient Nord, basically anything that isn't completely closed around the face.

 

 

 

http://prntscr.com/cammaq (Player Character wearing Dragon Mask)

 

http://prntscr.com/camstg (NPC wearing Steel Plate Helm)

 

 

My load order:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

WM Flora Fixes.esp

KS Hairdos - HDT.esm

3DNPC.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

Opeth_Weather.esp

SkyUI.esp

FNIS.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Opeth_torch.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Tamriel Reloaded.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp

KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp

3DNPC.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Serana.esp

TrueStorms.esp

TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Cloaks.esp

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

AK- Alternate Actors.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp

DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

ISC WAFR Patch.esp

ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp

RAIN.esp

MyLydia.esp

ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

RSChildren - Complete.esp

VioLens.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Project579]

imp_helm_legend.esp have you checked if some of the edits from this plugin get overwritten?

[vrag98]

imp_helm_legend.esp have you checked if some of the edits from this plugin get overwritten?

 

I think this heading in the right direction, It fixed the issue with NPC's but now the hide helm feature is just layering the Player Characters hair over the helmet.

 

http://prntscr.com/can6qa

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• This may be missing meshes : a mod may need some meshes in a bsa file and for some reasons, the mod should need a manual install rather than the automated install via a mod manager and simply extracting the required files from the mod archive in the appropriate folder, (skyrim/data if you're using NMM) should correct the problem.
• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit. This may be solved by :deactivating a plugin, editing plugins manually with Tes5edit to make them compatible. How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods. Make also sure you don't have part of armors in a mod that use the helmet slot and shouldn't. this sounds stupid but if an armor supposed to use the body slot is also "helmet ticked", each time you'll wear this armor, you'll loose your hair.

Good luck.

 

Edit : <but now the hide helm feature is just layering the Player Characters hair over the helmet.> the dragon priest hood you're using should be also ticked hair and perhaps also long hair. Use the methods above to target the mod doing that and edit it with tes5edit of ck. Load order can also change this matter.

 

Here is a thread that can help you with Tes5edit and slots.

[vrag98]

Hello,

 

• This may be missing meshes : a mod may need some meshes in a bsa file and for some reasons, the mod should need a manual install rather than the automated install via a mod manager and simply extracting the required files from the mod archive in the appropriate folder, (skyrim/data if you're using NMM) should correct the problem.
• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit. This may be solved by :deactivating a plugin, editing plugins manually with Tes5edit to make them compatible. How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods. Make also sure you don't have part of armors in a mod that use the helmet slot and shouldn't. this sounds stupid but if an armor supposed to use the body slot is also "helmet ticked", each time you'll wear this armor, you'll loose your hair.

Good luck.

 

Edit : <but now the hide helm feature is just layering the Player Characters hair over the helmet.> the dragon priest hood you're using should be also ticked hair and perhaps also long hair. Use the methods above to target the mod doing that and edit it with tes5edit of ck. Load order can also change this matter.

 

Here is a thread that can help you with Tes5edit and slots.

 

 

I narrowed it down to the 2 mods, "Improved CloseFaced Helmets" and "Weapon and Armor Fixes Remade" (only the improved closed helmets installer variant though) with that variant disabled and the Improved CloseFaced Helmets mod disabled the Helm Toggle feature works as intended. So I think you're right the mod probably sets the masks to slots that conflict with the toggle helm mod, I had a similar issue where if a character had a fur collar equipped it would hide the collar instead.

 

I've already done manual cleaning with Tes5edit and Loot shows no issues atm. I tried moving the mods around in the load order but hair issue still occurs, but honestly I think I can live without the "Improved closefaced helms" mod if everything else is back to normal. (I wanted to use a texture replacer for the masks anyway)

 

thanks for the help though! :D

[Darkstyler35]

You're welcome.

Either you live without the mod that create the problem, either you use the tutorial link (Here is a thread) in order to correct every piece of armor in CK or Tes5edit that are involved.

 

If you uninstall a mod at mid game, using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.

 

Good luck.

[SteveMass]

Hey guys, hope I am not bumping up too old of a thread, but I am also looking for a solution to the exact same problem. I do NOT use any toggle helm on/off mods. What I did was opened a new profile on MO with NO mods except for AlternateStart, and I found that as long as imp_helm_legend.esp is activated, weather from improved closedfaced helms OR from the compatability patch from WAFR the helmet (I am testing with a daedric one) is simply invisible, and I get a bald character.

 

So basically load order looks like this:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Hearthfires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

 

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invisible helmet.

 

Hope that helps someone!

[SteveMass]

OK and update on this, I copied the meshes folder from the Improved Closedfaced helms mod to the Skyrim Data folder and it actually completely fixed the problem with a minimal load order with or without WAFR and the imp_helm_legend.esp replacer from it.

 

With my extensive load list...

 

(Big load order:)

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Nock2Tip.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Havok Breast Physic.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Pre PaMa N2T CCOR Patch.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
3DNPC.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
SkyUI.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
STEP DLC Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
ViewableFactionRanks.esp
Footprints.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
BFSEffects.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
XPMSE.esp
Soul Gems Differ.esp
ADS.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
BWS.esp
randomthunder.esp
Havok Breast Physic.esp
OBIS.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
Real Roads.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
IHSS.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
RaceMenu.esp
TGLNordArmor.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
Character Creation Overhaul.esp
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
VioLens.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
zzArmormashups.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
FNIS.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Undeath.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
OBISDB.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_dpe.esp
Rebirth Monster Patches.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
Point The Way.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
Frostfall.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
VVE.esp
ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
Better Vampires.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
Nock2Tip.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
ETaC - Complete Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
EmbersHD.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp
TradeBarter.esp
TMBVanillaArmorandClothes.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
WetandCold.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp
RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Paralyze.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
Shrine of Azura LOD Fix.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
ElderOutfit.esp
Back off, Barbas!.esp
RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp
RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
iHUD and moreHUD.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
CoT-WeatherPatchesMerged.esp
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Schwertleite Set.esp
Ghorza's Armor.esp
Contractor Armor.esp
Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
Mavari Armor.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
NARC.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
GDZZJJDH.esp
BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp
armormergetemp.esp
RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
DaedraHuntress.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
AOS.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - AOS.esp
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
ETaC - Complete ELE Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp
STEP Extended Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
PerMaDefluffedPerkDescriptions.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_SimplyKnock.esp
PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Patch.esp
TES5EditMergePatch.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Automatic Variants.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

... I got to the same solution by making sure that nothing overwrites the meshes from improved closedfaced helms. Everything worked 100% by either moving "Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement" ABOVE improved closedfaced helms OR hiding the overwriting meshes of the helm in question in the filetree of the mod in MO.

 

Thank you @darstyler!

Edited January 6, 2017 by SteveMass

[Justinx931]

Extracted the mesh folder of ICH to data folder and it worked!

thanks for this!

[JLeach72]

You guys saved me a lot of panic tonight. Much thanks!