oblivion crashing when leaving/entering buildings/cities, crashing intermittently

[Crumpet]

Hi guys, I need some help with a pretty major issue i'm having in Oblivion. Might be due to lack of experience, I might have completely butchered my game.

I haven't played in 5 years and I installed it recently and installed a lot of mods, some big ones, a lot of small, simple ones. It will work fine when going through a dungeon, I would experience 0 CTDs, however, whenever I fast travel here and there, enter a building, cave, fort etc, the game would crash to desktop in the loading screen. This would result in me constantly reevaluating my load order, then I gave up on that and I installed BOSS, would rearrange my load order using that, then rebuilding my bashed patch using wrye bash, then maybe, MAYBE I can enter a new cell without experiencing a CTD.

Today, I installed LOOT, found that there were dirty edits with a few mods, followed the tes4edit cleaning guide to clean the esp files, then ran LOOT again, the esps were no longer dirty, used LOOT to change my load order, rebuilt the bash patch.

It is also worth mentioning that I have patched my oblivion.exe with the 4gb patch.

Here is my load order as of today:

0 0 Oblivion.esm

1 1 Jog_X_Mod.esm

2 2 All Natural Base.esm

3 3 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm

4 4 Better Cities Resources.esm

5 5 bookplacing.esm

6 6 A_Bloody_Mess.esm

7 7 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

8 8 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

9 9 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

10 a DLCShiveringIsles.esp

11 b Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

12 c DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

13 d DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

14 e DLCThievesDen.esp

15 f DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

16 10 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

17 11 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

18 12 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

19 13 DLCVileLair.esp

20 14 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

21 15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

22 16 DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

23 17 DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

24 18 DLCFrostcrag.esp

25 19 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

26 1a Better Cities .esp

LoadingScreens.esp

LoadingScreensSI.esp

27 1b All Natural - Real Lights.esp

28 1c Better Cities Full.esp

29 1d xulRiverEthe.esp

30 1e xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

31 1f xulCloudtopMountains.esp

32 20 xulAncientYews.esp

33 21 Better Imperial City.esp

34 22 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

35 23 Better Dungeons.esp

36 24 xulLushWoodlands.esp

37 25 Better Cities CHORROL.esp

38 26 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

39 27 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

40 28 xulBlackwoodForest.esp

41 29 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

42 2a Thieves Arsenal.esp

43 2b Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

44 2c xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

45 2d xulChorrolHinterland.esp

46 2e Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

47 2f xulArriusCreek.esp

48 30 Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

49 31 Trees Overhaul.esp

50 32 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

51 33 Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

52 34 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

53 35 Better Cities BRUMA.esp

54 36 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

55 37 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp

56 38 xulSnowdale.esp

57 39 xulAncientRedwoods.esp

58 3a xulJerallGlacier.esp

59 3b Better Cities ANVIL.esp

60 3c All Natural.esp

61 3d XulEntiusGorge.esp

62 3e xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

63 3f drifting seeds.esp

64 40 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

65 41 xulTheHeath.esp

66 42 The Lost Spires.esp

67 43 xuldarkforest.esp

68 44 xulAspenWood.esp

LoadingScreensAddOn.esp

69 45 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

70 46 xulRollingHills_EV.esp

71 47 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

72 48 xulStendarrValley.esp

73 49 xulPantherRiver.esp

74 4a SupremeMagicka.esp

75 4b Oblivion Content Restoration Project.esp

76 4c All Natural - SI.esp

77 4d WindowLightingSystem.esp

78 4e Update My Statue.esp

79 4f Unlimited Weapon Recharge.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

Crowded Roads Advanced.esp

80 50 Harvest[Containers].esp

81 51 Mage Equipment.esp

82 52 Immersive Interiors.esp

83 53 xulImperialIsle.esp

84 54 MannimarcoRevisited.esp

85 55 ScarletMonastery.esp

Grass Overhaul.esp

86 56 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

87 57 GTAesgaard.esp

Crowded Cities 30.esp

88 58 Get Wet.esp

89 59 kuerteeCleanUp.esp

90 5a LazyPCB.esp

91 5b OblivionReloaded.esp

OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp

92 5c Dynamic Map.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

93 5d 100%ChameleonMod.esp

94 5e CapesandCloaks.esp

95 5f Extra Robe Pack.esp

96 60 Reznod_Mannequin.esp

97 61 Weapons Of Morrowind.esp

98 62 Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp

99 63 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

100 64 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

101 65 Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

102 66 Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

103 67 Creature Diversity.esp

104 68 Lem - The Spire of Apparitions.esp

105 69 Lem - The Nether.esp

106 6a thievery.esp

107 6b xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

108 6c Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Book Placement v2.esp

109 6d Carry all you want-5118.esp

110 6e movablebodies.esp

111 6f Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp

Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp

112 70 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp

Quest Award Leveling SI - no forged items.esp

113 71 EnchantmentMastery.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

114 72 SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

115 73 SSEE.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

116 74 Magicka Regen x8.esp

117 75 RenGuardOverhaul.esp

118 76 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp

BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp

119 77 More Training-1908.esp

120 78 Vampire Aging Disabled 2 XYoung.esp

walklikesheo.esp

121 79 All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp

122 7a Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

123 7b SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

124 7c All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp

125 7d AncientTowers.esp

126 7e Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp

127 7f Better Cities - All Natural.esp

Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

128 80 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp

129 81 Guild Map Markers.esp

130 82 Leviathan Soulgems.esp

131 83 MidasSpells.esp

132 84 moregems.esp

133 85 The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp

134 86 TheForgottenShields.esp

135 87 EY_BM_Armory.esp

136 88 HelmetCollection.esp

137 89 KDCirclets.esp

138 8a PTFallingStars.esp

139 8b KDClothCirclets.esp

140 8c mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp

141 8d Better Cities - Thievery.esp

142 8e Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

143 8f Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

144 90 GrayFoxLeatherFree.esp

145 91 GoldnSilverBars.esp

146 92 GrayFoxLeatherReward.esp

147 93 Quest Award Leveling.esp

148 94 Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

149 95 Madgod Powers.esp

150 96 Enchantment Enhanced.esp

151 97 Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp

152 98 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

It still crashes randomly when running through Cheydinhal or when trying to enter or an Inn. I have reinstalled Oblivion 3 times prior with having deleted the Oblivion folder from my O: drive and also the saves folder along with oblivion.ini.

Was hoping someone could point out something wrong with my load order or offer some suggestions as to what else to do.

This has been a massive time waster so far and was hoping I wouldn't have to do a clean install, but I will if I absolutely have to.

Also, system specs:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz

Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M7 (MS-7976)

Memory: 32.00 GB

HDDs: 1x Kingston SHPM2280P2/240G

2x Samsung SSD 850 PRO 256GB in RAID 0

GPUs: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970

OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

I would appreciate any assistance.

[Striker879]

Making the same post in multiple sub-forums won't get you any different result ... there are only so many of us that frequent the Oblivion support forums anymore, and if anything is posted under any subforum we will read it and try to help (even if you try to "hide" your request in a "wrong" sub-forum ... there aren't many requests for help so if we see a post anywhere in the Oblivion forums the people who will try to help will look to see what the post is about).

 

If I was into making guesses I'd uninstall all the Better Cities stuff and see if that reduces the crashes.

 

Unfortunately when you install a whole whack of mods at once and then run into problems you have a tangled mess with no way of knowing what is causing the problem. If you install one mod and then test thoroughly before adding another mod it's a pretty trivial matter to figure out where to start troubleshooting when you run into problems. Yes it will seem to be a slower method, until you waste weeks trying to untangle a mess (and as often as not don't succeed).

 

When I installed my latest load order it took more than two weeks to get about 150 mods installed and properly tested (granted many of my test sessions would appear to most folks more like "play" sessions, but when you want to understand how a particular mod affects game stability or performance you can't run a two minute test). In the end I have a very good understanding of how each mod in my load order affected the game.

Edited August 29, 2016 by Striker879