Sulhir Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Steps to reproduce.Fresh Skyrim install - all DLC's active. (I imagine a simple lack of any mods present in your Skyrim folder is acceptable)Brand new save. (I was able to duplicate this on any unmodded save from Helgen to the end of the game without doing the Civil War quests).Leave Helgen with Ralof/Hadvar.Join the opposite faction of who you left with.Progress to the Jagged Crown.Guess who's not outside Korvanjund waiting for you.Use the console to select either Hadvar or Ralof and type moveto.playerNothing happens.Type EnableOMG THAR HE IS So yeah. Basically I need more people who can duplicate this to prove it exists. I've spent about an entire workday and completely reinstalled Skyrim trying to figure out what's causing it only to be told that the USLEEP creators can't replicate it and think I'm either doing something wrong or a special snowflake that can just deal. There's stuff all over the UESP about the bug but without more data I don't think the USLEEP team will touch this. Edited September 4, 2016 by Sulhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 You rushed to the quest right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulhir Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Didn't console command myself on location, ran the whole way there on foot. If the solution is taking the scenic route, I'm all ears. A 24 hour wait in an interior cell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 When you exit the cave you go directly to solitude/windhelm right? you do the part where you walk to riverwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulhir Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) There's no cave yet. Ralof/Hadvar should meet you outside Korvanjund when the Jagged Crown begins with the other Stormcloak/Imperial soldiers and they do not. I don't need help resolving this per-se more I need help documenting this occurrence. If others can't reproduce it I want to figure out why and if others can I need the documentation to present to the USLEEP team who I admit took their time doing this thoroughly but somehow didn't get the same results as me and every other user I've asked about it. Oh you mean after Unbound. It doesn't matter. I can encounter this bug directly from Helgen or after doing all the DLC main quests and every faction's main quest. I have saves I can reproduce this on from any point in the game with any combination of choices. Edited September 6, 2016 by Sulhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 No i meant the cave when you start the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulhir Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Yeah... That would be the cave during Unbound. The first quest in the game. With the tutorial, Hadvar/Ralof, and the whole setup for encountering this possible bug/possible intentional problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Maybe the fact that the NPC doesn't appear is because is theoretically dead and so you are not going to encounter it at Korvunjund; does not having Hadvar/Ralof break the war quest? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka25565 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 i got a bug like this once culdnt fix it and just loaded like 2h ago it was painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulhir Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 This breaks the civil war quests in many places and the npc is not necessarily dead, just presumed. According to the USLEEP team he is not dead and they don't know how I'm encountering this I'm not looking for a solution because the solution will need to be part of the USLEEP patch if anything is done at all. I can apply an immediate fix to any personal game using console commands. I'm looking for documentation because USLEEP cannot replicate this and I need to know if anyone else can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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