Im Done.

[abaris]

Presumably, this is all my fault. Since Fallout 3 came along and was everything I could more or less ask from a post-apocalyptic RPG, I've got this theory that Bethesda must know who I am and develops their game for me personally. Well, that's what it feels like with Skyrim.

 

The difference being that everything you did in Fallout and Fallout NV mattered very much when it came to NPCs and the world in general. Therefore, I would rate both games higher than Skyrim where it absolutely doesn't matter if you're a saint or a bloody killer.

[Arcadiast]

for petes sake try to be considerate with your fellow gamers a little. Yes I know he is telling nothing we did not allready heard before but he needs to channel his frustration about the game and honestly this forum is sometimes all you have when it comes to this.

 

@Elizinator

 

look Eliz (i hope you dont mind me calling you Eliz), I know what you mean. We all have some more or less issues with Skyrim. That is so with anything that is new or different. If Skyrim were exactly like Morrowind or Oblivion with better graphics then people would be bitc***ng about how Skyrim is "just Morrowind/Oblivion with better graphics". That does not help you in your current state of course but I dont expect Beth to change Skyrim just for you. As I see it now you have following choices:

 

- give Skyrim another chance with different view (no comparing to Morrowind or Oblivion but consider it a whole new game)

- go back and play Morrowind and/or Oblivion still very much supported by the community with new stuff everyday and hope that modding will give you a Skyrim you can enjoy.

- continue ranting in forums until nobody listens to you (worst option by the way)

 

I hope that helps a little!

[marharth]

oh yes and those who complain about the quests rolf the reason you finish it so fast is that you only follow main quests and dont take time to enjoy the enviroment they made you dont go hunting for fun you dont explore.

The questlines are shorter. It has nothing to do with not exploring.

[HaloHunter72]

Criticism should be welcome, this allows gamers to express their opinions. For some, Skyrim may the best RPG they've ever played, while others are stuck with older RPGs. It's all opinion, and the fact that they may not agree doesn't warrant hate or not to be taken seriously.

[ginnyfizz]

As I think jim_uk mentioned earlier, it seems that a lot of the people slamming the OP hardest are relatively new, or infrequent posters on here who are rather pumped and hyped about Skyrim and feel the need to annihilate any criticism of their favourite game. There has been something of an outbreak of intolerance from fanboys since Skyrim came out. Say ANYTHING against any aspect of the game and out come the flamethrowers. Fortunately the excellent Nexus staff team step in and stop it before it gets really silly (sends beers/cakes/whatever they like best to them.)

 

Why does the UI stink? Still not mouse and keyboard friendly, and physically painful to use if, like me, you have a disability that affects your hands.

[Matth85]

There has been something of an outbreak of intolerance from fanboys since Skyrim came out. Say ANYTHING against any aspect of the game and out come the flamethrowers

 

Is slightly wrong. A good portion of us are not direct skyrim fanboys, and got nothing against people not liking Skyrim. No game can fit everybody. What some, or atleast I, attack people for, is the sheer stupidity of comments like:

i want my Morrowind back.

- I am sorry to say, but Morrowind is still here. Why brng it up here, a totally different game?

 

That is pure nostalgia talking, and I personally want to grab my flamethrower every time I see it in any topic. *gasp* Are you telling me Skyrim is not Morrowind?!? The names are almost the same and all!

If people do not like the Ui, then that is opinions. If they do not like the bugs, they can join the bug posts all over the forums. If they do not like being overpowered on master difficulty, they can stop expoiting. There really is no reason to spend more time with "I hate this game cuz ther are bugs n i wnt morrowind!". We've heard it a million times.

 

If people got some new critisism to give, then by all means: post! The more that is known, the better!

If it is the same whining we've had since release, and people emoing this is no Morrowind, then yes: We will comment back and flame. There are thousand of topics about it, we don't need any more of it. It's really getting annoying, if anything.

 

 

Cheers,

Matth

[Aurielius]

Is the game bugged?... Yes. Is the game just out of the starting gates?.... Yes? Does the game need more patches?... Yes Is that going to stop me from enjoying it?... NO.

[abaris]

 

If it is the same whining we've had since release, and people emoing this is no Morrowind, then yes: We will comment back and flame. There are thousand of topics about it, we don't need any more of it. It's really getting annoying, if anything.

 

 

Cheers,

Matth

 

As annoying as "haters gonna hate" or the "people who like the game are too busy playing it"?

 

Exactly these words can be found at EVERY game board whenever someone dares to criticise something. It appears as if some PR genius from the gaming industry had written a book with trolling shortcuts.

 

I like the game despite its flaws. But most criticism I have read here is based on solid arguments. And that's what a discussion board is all about, discussion. Nobody forces anyone to read, let alone comment certain posts. I can say for myself that I'm ignoring a fair bunch of them, since the topic title is that moronic that I don't expect something enlightening inside. But I don't have to drop by to actually call the OP a moron or simply for the sake of trolling or flaming.

Edited December 3, 2011 by abaris

[ginnyfizz]

There has been something of an outbreak of intolerance from fanboys since Skyrim came out. Say ANYTHING against any aspect of the game and out come the flamethrowers

 

Is slightly wrong. A good portion of us are not direct skyrim fanboys, and got nothing against people not liking Skyrim. No game can fit everybody. What some, or atleast I, attack people for, is the sheer stupidity of comments like:

i want my Morrowind back.

- I am sorry to say, but Morrowind is still here. Why brng it up here, a totally different game?

 

That is pure nostalgia talking, and I personally want to grab my flamethrower every time I see it in any topic. *gasp* Are you telling me Skyrim is not Morrowind?!? The names are almost the same and all!

If people do not like the Ui, then that is opinions. If they do not like the bugs, they can join the bug posts all over the forums. If they do not like being overpowered on master difficulty, they can stop expoiting. There really is no reason to spend more time with "I hate this game cuz ther are bugs n i wnt morrowind!". We've heard it a million times.

 

If people got some new critisism to give, then by all means: post! The more that is known, the better!

If it is the same whining we've had since release, and people emoing this is no Morrowind, then yes: We will comment back and flame. There are thousand of topics about it, we don't need any more of it. It's really getting annoying, if anything.

 

 

Cheers,

Matth

 

Quod erat demonstrandum. You have by your reply proved my point, in other words.

I don't set Morrowind as my personal benchmark either, but others clearly do and it is their right so to do.

Now the not liking the UI is rather more than an isolated opinion. There is a general consensus across most reviews that it is PC unfriendly, a huge amount of people here on Nexus think it stinks, and there was a review stating that it is particularly horrendous for the disabled.

 

Finally, stating that "We will comment back and flame" is never a good idea *cough* TOS....

 

@abaris, a very fine and balanced post.

[Matth85]

But I don't have to drop by to actually call the OP a moron.

True, nobody should go that far.

 

I would, however, break dow all of his arguments at all times, just to prove my point: This is opinions and whining. Not good critisism, not good information, nothing.

 

As annoying as "haters gonna hate" or the "people who like the game are too busy playing it"?

The first is used against ragers, and the latter is used against the "everybody hates Skyrim!" topics. They might be very, say, trollish, but server their purpose. "This is not Morrowind!" simply does not serve any purpose other than taunting us, who never liked Morrowind. It is not a good argument. It is not a good reason. It really is the worst trolling comment I can think of, exept "umadbro?!".

 

As I allready said: If somebody got some new bugs, new solution, new information, then good! Everybody would love that. But hearing the same things over and over, isn't helping. People raging, people whining, etc,etc, is the only thing that come out of that.

An example:

 

- We know every morrowind fanboy hate Skyrim because of X reason.

- We know the UI is bugged and some people don't like the 3d viewer.

- We know people meet certain bugs.

- We know the crafting proffesions are overpowered together.

- etc

 

There is nothing nobody can do that isn't allready in the making. Keep saying that will only lead to fights over the internet, which is as sad as anything.

 

Sidenote: I've also noticed people think every post is serious and/or offensive if there isn't smileys. I am sorry, there is rarely any feeling involved with posts unless it is whining or raging, or big letters. So let me add a smiley, so people get that I am not raging, not trying to be offensive, just trying to get a point out: :D

 

EDIT:

 

I don't set Morrowind as my personal benchmark either, but others clearly do and it is their right so to do.

Yes they do. But there is no reason to expect every game to be Morrowind, and use it as an insult to Bethesda and a taunt to us.

 

a huge amount of people here on Nexus think it stinks

Opinion.

 

and there was a review stating that it is particularly horrendous for the disabled

Fact.

 

See, there is a different in thoose. One is the opinion of many, one is/could be a fact. One is good as an argument, one is not.

 

 

Cheers,

Matth

Edited December 3, 2011 by Matth85