skyrim dumbed down for consoles you say? nope, just 360

[Guss]

rofl

 

games quality is based on the graphics in my opinon.

 

how good the graphics are is a major determining point on whats good and whats not.

 

with your logic, skyrim would be just as good on the old 8 bit pc systems

 

ps3 is a far superior system. gaming is about the experience, and the experience is always better with better graphics capabilities. with that said, thats why ps3 is built from the ground up as a blue rap 1080p system (all ps3 game discs are blue ray) and the 360's max game resolution of 720, isnt

 

based on graphics of the game determining how good they are. wow what games do you play that aren't crap. :whistling:

Game play and feeling that you are in the world and involved with whats going on should be the determining factor. i am sure there are several games that you would love that aren't good graphics. not talking to you but example is WoW those guys are rich/greedy and the most played game i have ever seen and addicting but graphics suck badly. why do we need to start a war with the consoles over graphics everyone knows the xbox 360 vs ps3.

[frapfap]

^what? Starting a console war is unwise. My PS3 runs this game horribly. My friends xbox360 also runs this game horribly. My OK laptop runs this game OK. My PC runs this game incredibly.

Before getting my new PC 3 days ago I played this game on PS3 and xbox 360 before amazingly being able to play it on my laptop (Intel HD graphics 3000 - you never fail to surprise me). The loading times on the consoles make this game incredibly irritating - this game is too good and shouldn't have been released for consoles.

 

 

I thought I'd post in the non-sensical ranting style of all previous posts in this thread.

 

 

its not a consol war cuz ps3 won the day it was released. xbox fan boys can say what they want but until they get free online/blu ray 1080p graphics in game, they have nothing to talk about. they pay to play online the same games i can for free, cept i also can play it in 1080, vs they can only play it in 720. @o they are paying to play the same games online with worse graphics.

 

 

its like saying diablo3 is free to play but diablo1 requires subsription... free f***in simple to decide the winner... i wont even get into the 10's of millions of red ring xboxs cuz its not needed in the argument cuz ps3 already won at release.

[Psykosis]

I think your confused about how to compare processing power between completely different CPUs - 1 GHz <> 1GHz when comparing the PS3's Cell Processor vs. your x86 based PC's processor. First of, a PS3's Core Processor contains 1 General purpose CPU Core, and then 7 SPE's, which are not general computing cores. Now, I do agree that the PS3 has higher potential than the XBox as far as computational and graphical capability, but your PC without a doubt can run loops around them both.

 

One core aspect of why some would say Skyrim's graphics were held back by consoles: PS3 has 256MB of graphical ram (+256 MB system ram) and the XBox 360 has 512MB. Most modern gaming PCs have 1GB+ of graphical RAM + 4GB+ of general ram. The PS3/XBox360's lacking of ram directly would correlate to diminished texture capability compared to a PC.

[RejectedCamel]

its dumbed down to work on the 360, not just consoles in general

 

the 360 has the worst graphics and processing unit of the two (ps3/360)

 

ps3 is built from the ground up as a 1080p blueray quality system, the 360 can only support 720 in game resolution (been proven a long time ago, no disputing that).

 

 

if it wasnt for the shitty xbox limitations, the game could have been made a lot better than it was.

 

the ps3 is very powerfull and can handle a lot more than people think.

 

my computer has better graphics than a ps3 but barely cuz im running dual graphics cards..the ps3 uses the Nvidia RSX card / ps3 exclusive design

The ps3 has 2x the processing power in it that my computer does (ps3 has over 23Ghz combined processing power) vs my computers 3ghz quad core (12ghz combined)

 

AND I RUN THE GAME ON FULL ULTRA ON MY PC @ an average of 60-80fps--- which means the ps3 can also

 

 

so dont be prejudice against it being dumbed down for consoles, its was dumbed down for the 360, and thats it

 

 

if they made skyrim on a ps3 basis and not 360, the game would have to be called red ring of skyrim cuz the 360 would have exploded from attempting to process that level of graphics

Actually, GPU-wise, Xbox 360 > PS3.

CPU-wise, PS3 > Xbox.

RAM-wise, Xbox > PS3, by far.

 

The XBOX is actually more powerful overall than the PS3, mainly due to balance and better peak performance. The PS3 simply relies on Cell's brute force to keep up with the 360. I am not a console gamer, although if I had to chose one, I'd prefer the PS3 for the exclusives, the menus and the free online service.

 

Anyway, saying that a game was "dumbed down" because of *one* console is absolutely ridiculous. Both consoles are incredibly weak, both of them have huge flaws and both of them are to blame for Skyrim's poor graphical quality. If you want to say that the game itself has been dumbed down because of consoles, that's wrong - it's been dumbed down because the masses will get into it a lot more easily, and guess what - that means a lot more money. Bethesda, BioWare, Obsidian, Treyarch, DICE etc. have all simplified their games so that more people enjoy them, and I cannot blame them for doing so - it's a logical decision, and I personally prefer to play a video game and not a pen & paper D20 game that's all about complex, non user-friendly interfaces and gameplay. Bethesda did take matters too far with skills such as crafting, magic and alchemy, but mistakes are the best way to learn. BioWare made a lot of mistakes with Dragon Age 2, and DA3 is supposedly a lot more similar to DA1 than DA2. Guess why? Because they made mistakes and they learnt. Bethesda crafted a humongous game in merely 3 years, and I think they deserve credit for what they have done. Sure, it may not be the best game ever (and I actually had more fun in Oblivion, as I explained in another post on this forum) but it's a good game nonetheless. Claiming that it was 'dumbed down' because of the Xbox 360 is a completely invalid claim, and honestly, a rather childish thing to say.

[frapfap]

rofl @ this guy ^

it was dumbed down for 360. look at the ps3 exclusives vs xbox. huuuuge difference in gameplay and graphics.

 

why do u think metal gear solid: guns of the patriots was ps3 exclusive even after all the claims from the xbox fan boys that it was gonna be available for them too; and never happend?

 

because u cant take a game like that, designed for the ps3, and dumb it down for a 360 and still be good. and they refused to do that and thats why it stayed a ps3 exclusive. and they would have needed to make 17, count them, 17 discs in order for that game to played on the xbox, vs ps3's 1 blue ray.

 

companies like that know how to do quality control, and its done by not making games for lesser capabale systems and then releasing versions to powerhouse systems. there will be problems if u do that. and thats why that game rated the way it did.

 

if they wanna make pc versions of ps3 exclusives thats fine cuz pc's can be made to run at or above the level of a ps3. but u CAN NOT make a 360 run at the level of a ps3, and when u design games based upon the lowest perferming consol, the powerhouse systems will just puke it up

Edited December 1, 2011 by frapfap

[frapfap]

dont believe me, watch these and u will know which is better

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/wip3ou7?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/79/MakQpMSKP7I

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/wip3ou7?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/87/lR12jqCR5X4

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/wip3ou7?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/87/lR12jqCR5X4

[RejectedCamel]

rofl @ this guy ^

it was dumbed down for 360. look at the ps3 exclusives vs xbox. huuuuge difference in gameplay and graphics.

 

why do u think metal gear solid: guns of the patriots was ps3 exclusive even after all the claims from the xbox fan boys that it was gonna be available for them too; and never happend?

 

because u cant take a game like that, designed for the ps3, and dumb it down for a 360 and still be good. and they refused to do that and thats why it stayed a ps3 exclusive. and they would have needed to make 17, count them, 17 discs in order for that game to played on the xbox, vs ps3's 1 blue ray.

 

companies like that know how to do quality control, and its done by not making games for lesser capabale systems and then releasing versions to powerhouse systems. there will be problems if u do that. and thats why that game rated the way it did.

 

if they wanna make pc versions of ps3 exclusives thats fine cuz pc's can be made to run at or above the level of a ps3. but u CAN NOT make a 360 run at the level of a ps3, and when u design games based upon the lowest perferming consol, the powerhouse systems will just puke it up

There's a reason Skyrim, The Force Unleashed, Call of Duty etc. etc. tend to perform better on the XBOX, and it's because of the hardware.

 

Also, I think you're forgetting that the 360 has had games with amazing graphics at the time (considering they're console games), such as the Gears of War games.

 

I'm not here to defend the PS3 from the 360 or vice-versa: I am simply stating facts. The PS3, overall, is a lot weaker than the 360 and simply relies on Cell's brute force to run games at decent framerates - essentially, that nearly balances both consoles. However, they're both still obviously weak compared to even the weakest of modern gaming PCs. I owned a 360 for 2 years and I have played on the PS3 - I am not biased towards either console. They are both incredible inferior to PC, but to say that a game was 'dumbed down' because of ONE console is a ridiculous claim.

 

P.S. I also find it difficult to take your opinion seriously, considering the quality of your other posts, such as:

 

shut the f*** up

 

kthnxbai

Facts are facts. It is a fact that the XBOX has more RAM and a better graphics card than the PS3. It is a fact that the XBOX, in general, offers better performance in games than the PS3, as well as better image quality, apart from resolution.

Edited December 1, 2011 by RejectedCamel

[Lachdonin]

You also have to look at sales, related products, and overall usage. On every survey, 360 rates as the highest usage of the 3 current-gen consoles. The Kenect holds the record for the for the fastest selling electronic device in history. Xbox exclusives regularly out-sell PS3 exclusives.

 

Pure hardware does not make a system win. If it did, the Beta would have beaten the VHS hands down. Even then, the system specs of the two systems for not support your skewed view at all.

 

Keep beleiving what you want, but don't try to cram false information down our throats without some very convincing proof.

[RejectedCamel]

I think it's best we end the discussion then, as it's obvious that whatever proof I give doesn't seem to really matter.

[mrboneguy]

Let's not forget that they had to not only dumb down the game for the hardware, but for the console players as well. They had to simplify it further to appeal to a more low brow crowd. Less thinking about stats, character building, customizing spells, less skills to choose from, ect... more hack n slash. The proof is in the fact that it worked.

 

Note: Not all console players fit in the low brow crowd, but nearly all low brow gamers are strictly console players... and graphics is the biggest selling point for them.

Edited December 1, 2011 by mrboneguy