skyrim dumbed down for consoles you say? nope, just 360

[marharth]

Console fanboys make me laugh.

 

I can't take you seriously either and I think you are a troll with "Graphics greatly decide how good gameplay is."

[herpadjurp]

my computer has better graphics than a ps3 but barely cuz im running dual graphics cards..the ps3 uses the Nvidia RSX card / ps3 exclusive design

The ps3 has 2x the processing power in it that my computer does (ps3 has over 23Ghz combined processing power) vs my computers 3ghz quad core (12ghz combined)

 

There is so much wrong with this.

 

1. GHz is not something that you can really use to compare performance, specially not between vastly different architecture. see #4

2. Math does not work that way

3. Two cars going at 80km/h does not go any faster than a single car going at 80km/h, they will all arrive at the same time. See #2

4. GHz is a unit for frequency, not for "processing power". Eg a cpu that does some calculation in 5 clock cycles at 1GHz, would be faster than one doing the same calculation in 20 clock cycles at 2GHz, even though if you just look at the operating frequency the later seems to be twice as powerfull. A perfect example of this was P4 vs K8, where an intel P4 running at 3GHz could(and was) be beaten by an amd athlon running at a much lower clock speed.

 

Anyway, games like skyrim is not really that optimized for multithreading/processing, and a pc can have _a lot_ better single thread performance than any of the consoles out today. (and it just becomes worse if you look at the amount of ram available, gpu power and IO performance), and arguable if the game was fully optimized for the platforms in question (multithreading, offloading more work to the gpu etc), a pc would still beat any of the consoles down in the dust.

[totalwarman]

its dumbed down to work on the 360, not just consoles in general

 

the 360 has the worst graphics and processing unit of the two (ps3/360)

 

ps3 is built from the ground up as a 1080p blueray quality system, the 360 can only support 720 in game resolution (been proven a long time ago, no disputing that).

 

 

if it wasnt for the shitty xbox limitations, the game could have been made a lot better than it was.

 

the ps3 is very powerfull and can handle a lot more than people think.

 

my computer has better graphics than a ps3 but barely cuz im running dual graphics cards..the ps3 uses the Nvidia RSX card / ps3 exclusive design

The ps3 has 2x the processing power in it that my computer does (ps3 has over 23Ghz combined processing power) vs my computers 3ghz quad core (12ghz combined)

 

AND I RUN THE GAME ON FULL ULTRA ON MY PC @ an average of 60-80fps--- which means the ps3 can also

 

 

so dont be prejudice against it being dumbed down for consoles, its was dumbed down for the 360, and thats it

 

 

if they made skyrim on a ps3 basis and not 360, the game would have to be called red ring of skyrim cuz the 360 would have exploded from attempting to process that level of graphics

 

 

Do you mean"If it wasnt for the shitty xbox and PS3 limitations, the PC game could have been made a lot better than it was."?

[kok327]

You guys really fell for the troll... :facepalm:

[Lachdonin]

You guys really fell for the troll... :facepalm:

 

Have you ever considered that not every poorly based, factually wrong post on an internet forum is a Troll, and in fact some could just be idiots?

[Adrius2]

Wow, this thread is made of absolute win. My face changed expression like 200 times, ranging from crying to laughing my ass off.

 

You made good arguments against this guy and I agree with them. The troll feels very strong with this one though ^^

[Beriallord]

Eh, the PS3 is 6 year old hardware, my PC is at least 10x more powerful than a PS3. Console graphics pretty well suck anyway. Skyrim has sorta bad graphics because it is a console port and not a PC port. If it was created for PCs, it would look better and run better than it currently does.

[Adrius2]

If imma be serious, with current generation consoles the reason that a game may look better when it's developed exclusively for one platform is primarily NOT because one console is superior to the other.

 

Rather, it is the fact that when the developer can FOCUS on one particular set of hardware and ADAPT the software to use it to its maximum potential, you get a better result. Therefore, exclusives are often better looking and fanatic fanboys misinterpret this and go "AHHH THIS IS PROOOOOF! PS3/360 OWNZOR!".

 

The 360 and PS3 are fairly equal I think. The PC is of course WAAY superior in terms of raw power, but we also have way more power than is neccessary for the games we play. Why? Because there are so many damn parts that it's very hard for developers to optimize the game for all hardware. Therefore on PC, optimization is often ignored in favour of raw power, which is kinda sad really. Gaming computers could be way cheaper than they are.

 

So they all have their faults. Pick one and enjoy it.

Edited December 2, 2011 by Adrius2

[TKHawke]

Let's not forget that they had to not only dumb down the game for the hardware, but for the console players as well. They had to simplify it further to appeal to a more low brow crowd. Less thinking about stats, character building, customizing spells, less skills to choose from, ect... more hack n slash. The proof is in the fact that it worked.

 

Note: Not all console players fit in the low brow crowd, but nearly all low brow gamers are strictly console players... and graphics is the biggest selling point for them.

This is exactly what I always heard a "dumbed down" game was. I always heard it being about gameplay not the graphics. I kind of assumed "dumbed down" meant it had a lot of hand holding. Don't know what OP was talking about with the whole graphics issue but he and everyone else shouldn't be complaining about games being aimed at and dumbed down for console players. That's where the majority of the companies' profits and fan base will be at. I guarantee that Bethesda's fanbase is huge compared to us PC fans. At midnight release of the game me, my friend and 2 others were the only ones who came in for a PC copy of Skyrim. The other 20 or so were all for console copies. Lets not sit around here and be blaming the consoles for dumbing down our games, even if it were to be right, since the company likely wouldn't be as popular as it is and able to make the huge profit to spend on a later edition of the game without the console gamers.

[RejectedCamel]

Well, the guy was banned, so I guess our response to his attitude was valid after all... http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/psyduck.gif

 

Anyway, I agree with pretty much everyone who's posted here. There is no point in saying that the PS3 is far superior to the Xbox, when such a statement is obviously incorrect - plus, PC is the better platform anyway. Why people even bother creating discussions about this is beyond me.