Marcus Wolfe Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 So what you're saying is that in about a year, we'll have maxed out 5 Ghz CPUs? That sounds intense.....I also read the rest of your post. What I interpreted from it is:Over the next 5 years, games will grow less in processing power compared to the last 5 years. That will make everything bought in a year from now more worthwhile.I like that idea. I don't want to be caught up in a cycle of having to upgrade my computer every 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 So what you're saying is that in about a year, we'll have maxed out 5 Ghz CPUs? That sounds intense.....I also read the rest of your post. What I interpreted from it is:Over the next 5 years, games will grow less in processing power compared to the last 5 years. That will make everything bought in a year from now more worthwhile.I like that idea. I don't want to be caught up in a cycle of having to upgrade my computer every 2 years.Well, I'm probably wrong about it. Some techno geeks are probably having a good laugh at what I posted. But there have been hints that the rate of improvements has been slowing down. As far as processors go, most of the advancements within the last few years have only been because of putting more than one core on a board. The actual architecture of the processors hasn't changed much, they've just been able to make it smaller. But there are limits to this, more processors mean more heat, and anything as far as heat goes is usually bad for computers. 5ghz isn't unthinkable, it just requires multiple cores and the ability to get rid of the heat. As long as processors are using metals to conduct signals, there will be a limit to how small of a processor you can have. It won't be until someone can come up with some light based processors (micro-optics) that things will really start to take off again. Or if they find out a solution to the heat issue that's idiot friendly. But taking a few years out of the rapid hardware improvement cycle might actually be a good thing for things other than your pocketbook. If we get faced with limitations, we'll be more encouraged to optimize our software to run better with those limitations, rather than leave it up to someone else to make up for any problems. Look at how many game engines there are out there that make poor use of system resources. Look at Vista. These things were not made to run on what is currently available, but are made to run for those who have gone for either an above average system, or one of those high-end custom systems. If you're really worried about having to buy a new computer after a few years, save up and buy Alienware. Yeah, it costs alot more, but an Alienware system that is bought right now would be good enough to last you 4-5 years if you don't mind slowly diminishing performance or not keeping up with all the latest and most flashy FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worm82075 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Well, I'm only interested in getting the latest and greatest............So what's that going to be in a year? About 5000-6000$. You can get today's Latest and greatest for about 5000-6000$. You said previously that your budget was 1600$. Since you are obviously pipe dreaming here is mine: XPS 720 - BlackStarting Price $5,938Instant Savings $104Subtotal $5,834As low as $176/month PROCESSOR Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6850 (4MB L2 Cache,3.0GHz,1333 FSB) OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® UltimateMEMORY 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz OC'd to 1066MHz-4 DIMMs HARD DRIVE Dual 500GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache OPTICAL DRIVE Dual Drives: Blu-ray Disc Combo (DVD+/-RW + BD-ROM) and 16x DVD+/-RW MONITOR 24 inch E248WFP Entry Widescreen Digital Flat Panel Monitor VIDEO CARD 768MB Nvidia GeForce 8800 Ultra PHYSICS ACCELERATOR AGEIA® PhysX® physics accelerator SOUND CARD Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound CardKEYBOARD Dell USB Keyboard MOUSE Dell Optical USB Mouse My Software & AccessoriesPRINTER Dell Laser Printer 1320c SERVICE & SUPPORT 1 yr Ltd. Warranty- Advance Exchange DELL PRINTER Dell 1320c Color Laser Printer editSPEAKERS Bose Companion 3 Series II Multimedia Speaker SystemTOP SELLING SOFTWARE Easy Media Creator 10 Suite GAMING ACCESSORIES Saitek P2900 Wireless USB Game Pad DESKTOP ACCESSORIES Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM USB 2.0 External Hard Drive My ServiceWARRANTY AND SERVICE Get $50 Dell Gift Card with 4Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor PROTECTION AGAINST ACCIDENTS CompleteCare Accidental Damage Protection, 4 Year GETTING-STARTED HELP Dell On Call, 30 Day Unlimited, Back to School Support! Setup and MoreDATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 10GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Year ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEMLabels Windows Vista™ Premium Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 XPS Specialized Support XPS, Specialized Support Dream On. When your ready to stop pipe dreaming, really read my post(all of it) that I linked to previously and then we can talk about a system that you can afford and will be upgradeable, extending it's life 1 or two years beyond the two year software stepup demand on desktops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid345 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I saw in '09 they are going to have a pc from Microsoft about the size of a table. If you go to for example, a skate shop, you can customize the skateboard using a touch screen. They wont be in homes until i think 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumonji Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I spent $1500 to buy the parts and build my own "state of the art" pc about 3 years ago. Well, not really the best, but I targeted 85 to 90% of the best. That way you can get it for less than half price. I also made sure I had the latest motherboard setup (at the time) so I could upgrade to new cpus and stuff when the prices came down. Since then, I've upgraded my monitor (from 17" to 22" widescreen), installed a brand new video card, a new dual-core cpu and doubled my ram - all for another $1000 or so. I can run Oblivion at 1680x1050 with all the settings nearly maxed and fps at 20 or better. See my profile for actual system details. Next year I'll probably throw it all away and start over. Since my monitor is brand new, I'll save a bit. I figure to spend under $2000 to get back to 90% of next-year's "best." Regarding quad-core - you don't need it for games. Games won't take advantage of multiple cores for a few more years yet. One core for the game and one for Windows underneath - that's all you need for now. Anyway - if you really, really want to see what a cost-no-object, state-of-the-art gaming rig looks like, check these out: Falcon Northwest. Just be prepared for some serious, serious sticker-shock. -Jumonji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Anyway - if you really, really want to see what a cost-no-object, state-of-the-art gaming rig looks like, check these out: Falcon Northwest. Just be prepared for some serious, serious sticker-shock.Wow, my dream machine is over 22K! :ohmy: :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Wolfe Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Mine's at $16,132.19. Don't call'em dream machines for nothing.Let's see what these guys offer at a lower price......Nope, I don't think there's anything in my range. Of course, I intend to buy the pieces and assemble it myself to save some cash. I'll also be cheap on the chassis. Of course, if I change my mind and decide to go all out on a chassis, I'll definitely get a HP Blackbird 002. Those things are bitching. My dream system from that site's @ $10644.95. Take a look for yourself, it's one helluva chassis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumonji Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 My Falcon NW dream box is under $7k, but then I like AMD and I don't need a new monitor or a fancy paint job. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Wolfe Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Update: If I'm hired, I should be able to make about $5000 by September. Any new graphics cards or CPUs coming out by then that anybody knows about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 :rolleyes: You guys are pathetic - raw power alone isn't gonna make your game run any better. You still have to know how to optimize your system so you're not sacrificing performance all on the count of visuals. BTW, NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GX2 should be released anytime soon (maybe later this month, or next month sometime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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