cattywampus4 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hi I have started having an issue the last couple of weeks where Diamond City guards are not wearing any clothes. It doesn't seem to affect them all, some are wearing white baseball outfits, but the affects ones are wearing just underwear and their armor. I have suspicions that AWKCR or Armorsmith Extended may be causing the problem but I don't know how or why. Any have any ideas? Load order attached (note some are =0 i.e. not enabled) Thanks. 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damanding Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 AWKCR is just a framework of keywords and that's it. Armorsmith uses those keywords to let you add additional mods to clothing. It comes with some clothing items as well but should have no effect on whether Diamond City security guards wear clothing. Not to mention Gambit and Valdacil are not slow about fixing any bugs legitimately caused by their mods. So if you don't see posts complaining about it en masse on their mod pages you can be pretty sure that's not your problem. What mod is SecurityArmorV88.esp from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cattywampus4 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Thanks for responding. Interesting. It is http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16862/? - Vault 88 Armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill8872 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Check the many posts on load order. Sometime a improper load order can cause this to happen. The two sticky posts in this category helps. One your using, 3D Scopes is recommended to be at the top of the load order, while Armorsmith Extended somewhat near the end, with armor and weapon mods below it. I have found FO4 can be very picky where a mod is placed to work correctly, and LOOT is only good for finding conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cattywampus4 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thanks To be honest i am a bit lazy re load orders. I am always worried that moving something will cause headaches. I will go through it tomorrow and try and get some order sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill8872 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I know, with 225 mods adjusting it is a real pain. So have been saving my order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigCatt Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 i have the same issue. guard wearing their undies and only the armor over those, including helmets. they all have some piece of clothing in their inventory and manually equipping it (focusing on guard, "equipitem af0e4") will fix it, but to be honest, i'm not going to run around, search for all the guards and making them wear clothes. i'm the hero of the wasteland, not their mom/wife! =P i do use the AWKCR and Weaponsmith extended, but there are some other mods that might change clothing items, too. mostly CBBE related clothing replacers. i would be very happy if someone could tell me why that happens and maybe even how to get around it or fix it! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damanding Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I've since discovered that Armorsmith did do an update around the time of this original post that changed the DC guard's clothing so I would check to make sure that all the files got properly installed (open beta NMM has been having issues installing mods) if you're also using Armorsmith. If you're not actually using Armorsmith, can we see your mod list please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNorton Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 did u fixed it in the meantime? cuz i have this problem too now :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectvs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) I had this as well, but I moved Armorsmith Extended and subsequent files to bottom of load order, and it fixed it. Also, if you use Scrap Everything and FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker put them underneath the Armorsmith Extended files. Edit: Essentially like this (your files may be different) 125 7d Armorsmith Extended.esp126 7e keywordsAE.esp127 7f Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp128 80 Toxic Raider Armour.esp129 81 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-11.esp130 82 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp131 83 ROHToxicEdition.esp132 84 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp133 85 FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker_AIO.esp Edited January 22, 2017 by Praefectvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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