LordFisher Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Just want to give an update. I have completely un-installed all mods and have measured fps using fraps. I have also un-installed and re-installed the game. In towns I get roughly 20 fps. However,when looking at opposite ends of the town, it drops to lower than 15 fps. E.G. standing in the middle of Riverwood, facing the entrance it drops to 15, however, when looking at Alvar's house, it rises to 20. When at the entrance of Riverwood looking at the other end also drops to 15 or less. This is the same with all towns and city's, except when at opposite ends of citys, it drops to under 10 fps. When looking in the direction of a town, even if far away, my fps drops to 15 fps. When not looking in the direction of a town, I get steady 45+ fps. Safe to say, I'm seriously hacked off. Why when I can run Battlefield 3 at 50+ fps constant, can I not run this game playable?! Also, I'm running the game 1440 x 900. @OnlyOneWing I'm a bit hesitant about turning it off. Are there any ramifications such as CPU overheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jy02521671 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i have 4 gig ram, and i run skyrim and watch movie at the same time, never had no problem. on top of that i have about 15 mods installed for skyrim i think its because windows 7 and fire wall are slowing your pc, i never trust fire wall, it takes 50% of your memory makes your computer slow as turtle. solution would be either getting more ram or uninstall fire wall. although there is a limit to how much ram is active on your computer, you can have 50gig ram but it doesnt mean all 50gig will be active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokdeblade Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) hi there, i too am running an amd x6 @4ghz 4gig o ram 2x 6870 2gb i'm getting solid framerates of about 60-70 ultra setting maxed 8x aa and 1080p with 2048px texturemods etc. now obviously im using a crossfire setup here,however the scaling with with the additional card is horrendous about maybe 20% what does this mean for you? well you have a 6950 2gb which is about 15-20% faster than my one 6870 now my fps with one 6870 is about 50-55fps at 1080p with mods. you should easily be pulling 60+ in all areas and id say at 1400x900 you should be seeing it possibly in the 80s. seems to me you have a driver issue or confliction id suggest using a trusted version of "driver sweeper" or equivalent application for removal of your current drivers. then installation of this driver. This driver fixed my issues. http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalyst1111cperformance.aspx also anti virus might be better if uninstallled kind of unnecesary now anyway havn't had a virus ever with windows 7. windows firewall is fine. good reg cleaner to keep pc healthy and chrome as browser and http://housecall.trendmicro.com/uk/ for virus checking remotely without invasive software just for peace of mind. Edited December 8, 2011 by kokdeblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFisher Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 i have 4 gig ram, and i run skyrim and watch movie at the same time, never had no problem. on top of that i have about 15 mods installed for skyrim i think its because windows 7 and fire wall are slowing your pc, i never trust fire wall, it takes 50% of your memory makes your computer slow as turtle. solution would be either getting more ram or uninstall fire wall. although there is a limit to how much ram is active on your computer, you can have 50gig ram but it doesnt mean all 50gig will be active Firewall is already off. hi there, i too am running an amd x6 @4ghz 4gig o ram 2x 6870 2gb i'm getting solid framerates of about 60-70 ultra setting maxed 8x aa and 1080p with 2048px texturemods etc. now obviously im using a crossfire setup here,however the scaling with with the additional card is horrendous about maybe 20% what does this mean for you? well you have a 6950 2gb which is about 15-20% faster than my one 6870 now my fps with one 6870 is about 50-55fps at 1080p with mods. you should easily be pulling 60+ in all areas and id say at 1400x900 you should be seeing it possibly in the 80s. seems to me you have a driver issue or confliction id suggest using a trusted version of "driver sweeper" or equivalent application for removal of your current drivers. then installation of this driver. This driver fixed my issues. http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalyst1111cperformance.aspx also anti virus might be better if uninstallled kind of unnecesary now anyway havn't had a virus ever with windows 7. windows firewall is fine. good reg cleaner to keep pc healthy and chrome as browser and http://housecall.trendmicro.com/uk/ for virus checking remotely without invasive software just for peace of mind. I use driver sweeper and ccleaner. To install that driver, should I wipe the current ones (using driversweeper) and then install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneWing Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) @OnlyOneWing I'm a bit hesitant about turning it off. Are there any ramifications such as CPU overheating?Sorry, I forgot to check up on the post. No there shouldn't be unless you have heat issues to begin with(if you did, you would know it). Thermal throttling purposely causes your CPU to be "underclocked" in certain situations. The main benefits are cooler idle temperatures and lower power consumption... It's one of those things that are better for laptops than for desktops. It limit's your PC's ability in order to conserve resources... it's completely unAmerican. :P I've heard of people having similar issues as you for some games because thermal throttling for whatever reason, on their system didn't give high enough priority to the application... Besides, if you have any issues just turn it back on.Older CPUs never had thermal throttling to begin with. The thermal throttling thing is much safer than overclocking, and generally increases stability.It's one of the few things I can think of that can be wrong with your setup. Always keep firewall on. lol Or your computer will end up being used as a zombie. Also, try running the game in Windowed mode and see if that helps... while you do that keep task manager open in the background and occasionally check up on your CPU usage and Memory Usage. That will give you a better idea of what is being strained. Side note: When your CPU overheats, it will automatically shut it'self down to prevent damage. So you would be getting errors and random restarts when you run the CPU hard if you had any heat issues... Besides, if you aren't overclocking heat shouldn't be an issue. I only have 4gigs of ram on my rig...and my video card only has 768mb..my CPU is only a Phenom x4 @ 2.8ghz(when not overclocked)...and I can play Skyrim on max and some times ultra with playable frame rates... and that's at 1920x1080 running on my 55inch TV :dance: You have more ram than me, and probably faster ram than me, you have a faster processor than me with more cores. I have my firewall on, don't have an anti-virus installed(You don't need it too much unless you are downloading things from creepy sites, torrents)... So it cannot be a hardware issue. It must have something to do with software, whether it's setting or compatibility. Edited December 10, 2011 by OnlyOneWing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFisher Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 @OnlyOneWing I'm a bit hesitant about turning it off. Are there any ramifications such as CPU overheating?Sorry, I forgot to check up on the post. No there shouldn't be unless you have heat issues to begin with(if you did, you would know it). Thermal throttling purposely causes your CPU to be "underclocked" in certain situations. The main benefits are cooler idle temperatures and lower power consumption... It's one of those things that are better for laptops than for desktops. It limit's your PC's ability in order to conserve resources... it's completely unAmerican. :P I've heard of people having similar issues as you for some games because thermal throttling for whatever reason, on their system didn't give high enough priority to the application... Besides, if you have any issues just turn it back on.Older CPUs never had thermal throttling to begin with. The thermal throttling thing is much safer than overclocking, and generally increases stability.It's one of the few things I can think of that can be wrong with your setup. Always keep firewall on. lol Or your computer will end up being used as a zombie. Also, try running the game in Windowed mode and see if that helps... while you do that keep task manager open in the background and occasionally check up on your CPU usage and Memory Usage. That will give you a better idea of what is being strained. Side note: When your CPU overheats, it will automatically shut it'self down to prevent damage. So you would be getting errors and random restarts when you run the CPU hard if you had any heat issues... Besides, if you aren't overclocking heat shouldn't be an issue. I only have 4gigs of ram on my rig...and my video card only has 768mb..my CPU is only a Phenom x4 @ 2.8ghz(when not overclocked)...and I can play Skyrim on max and some times ultra with playable frame rates... and that's at 1920x1080 running on my 55inch TV :dance: You have more ram than me, and probably faster ram than me, you have a faster processor than me with more cores. I have my firewall on, don't have an anti-virus installed(You don't need it too much unless you are downloading things from creepy sites, torrents)... So it cannot be a hardware issue. It must have something to do with software, whether it's setting or compatibility. Cheers. Don't worry, my firewall isn't off, I put it as a general meaning for - "it's not doing too much damage". I've just been using 11-11c drivers and I'm getting slightly better performance. I'll probably turn off thermal throttling tomorrow. I've heard though, that Skyrim only ever utilises two cores. I'm pretty sure if it used all 6 I would get much better performance. Any way to get it to use more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaliqen Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Cheers. Don't worry, my firewall isn't off, I put it as a general meaning for - "it's not doing too much damage". I've just been using 11-11c drivers and I'm getting slightly better performance. I'll probably turn off thermal throttling tomorrow. I've heard though, that Skyrim only ever utilises two cores. I'm pretty sure if it used all 6 I would get much better performance. Any way to get it to use more? You can try adding some of the threading tweaks floating around as additions to the ini file. I don't think there's really much confirmation that they do anything, though. You can generate a new ini file from this site based on your preferences (be sure to back up your old file). Pay close attention to any of the tweaks involving settings for threads. Set each of the threaded settings to use 6 threads as a conservative number to start with (one per core in your CPU). Also, thermal throttling primarily kicks in when your CPU goes over a certain temperature threshold. I'd really suggest thinking over whether that's something you want to disable. If your CPU is getting hot enough to where thermal throttling is activating, that's an issue you should probably deal with by finding a better way to cool your CPU down. As for AMD Cool'n'Quiet (which activates when the system is in idle), I'd take a look at this thread. Edited December 11, 2011 by xaliqen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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