Pack Rat Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I'm just saying there must be a hold on technology... I find the matrix quiete overreacted.. But it's just, for example, my parents have tow ork very hard today to have a nice house and so on, my mom has to work hard to keep the house clean and if in 30 years all i have to do to get the same work done, is to switch a button than i'd be ashammed because we are getting lasier by the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 1) The site is a joke.2) A "mass robot rebellion" will only happen in science fiction stories. Only an idiot would give a robot complete independence... all you need to do to stop a rebellion is make their programming block it. A robot isn't a person... it does what its programming says to, no more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Of The Cheese Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 thats crazy :blink: ....yet i do think that most of the robots taking over science fictions stories wouldnt really work, like someone else said, any scientist with half a brain would program blocks to not allow them to take over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hundinman Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 yes, giving a robot full power to do what it likes may never happen. First of all because mankind may never be smart enough to ans second of all, no scientist or programmer is stupid enough. Unless......... they are a robot......... :rip: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohGr Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 theres no way known if trust a robot, id rather play "sledgehammer" then let one of those things in my house.i doubt anyone will like the idea anyway, maybe the stupid, typical rich people because they can actually afford it, but no one wants to make a killbot factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinJiOh Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 i doubt anyone will like the idea anyway, maybe the stupid, typical rich people because they can actually afford it, but no one wants to make a killbot factory. Not every wealthy person is a big spender, some people actually have to work hard to earn it(as opposed to winning the lottery). But back ON topic if i were ever to get one of these robots, there would have to be a way that they could compensate for their own size during cleaning so they dont end up messing more stuff than they clean. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohGr Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 i just got the impression all rich people will buy anything, if you live i melbourne, Ivanhor Grammar is the best example, i go there, my parents can just afford me, half the teachers are a joke (year 10 is good though), all the kids there are idiots who spend $30 at the canteen just for lunch, its a horrible school, and i advice against going there, in fact, all of my friends there hate it. no one wants a robot cooking your dinner, imagine it, "i said no yolk dammit, this is the last time out of the 50 eggs you wasted!!" then the machine would say back"........error" but seriously, no one wants that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltiraaz Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 I remeber hearing this in one Star Trek movie (not that I'm a Star Trek fan it just happened to be on TV :P) "When you build a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from that man." I feel that this statement is most probably true. Mankind needs to get up off its tush and start doing thing for itself. I remember debating something like this back at MWC: If I had to choose going back in time, or going forward in time, and staying whever you went permanently, then I would without a doubt go into the past, when things were simpler, and you didnt have to worry about stuff like global warming, terrorism, over-pollution, over-population. Bleh... Too many worries in the world right now, and IMO most of it traces back to us depending on machines to do our work for us. Since this isnt the debate doard I'll shut-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emry Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Folks, the NS-5 Robot is a character in a movie, I Robot which is based on a short story by Ray Bradbury. It's not a bad story as far as science fiction goes. You should check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudnik Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 see this is where i run into trouble. the technical definition for a robotic device is: a re-programmable, working machine, dependent on its working environment. that was my first lesson down at the robotics institute where i study. we read "i robot" and as a class decided it stank as far as technical definitions goes, but it did have some funky ideas we could play around with. as far as independent intelligence? not within several lifetimes. the programming language we use now cannot even amount to the workings of a cockaroach brain. trust me, i work with it all the time. ABB the worlds biggest robotics developers, have not yet compiled their latest code: it is supposed to contain more than 4000 commands and functions, but as they themselves put it, it just doesnt allow for independent thought. think of a production line: it has the input device (a part loader arm), a control system for the arm, the conveyor, a control system for the conveyor, the several dozen manipulator arms, and their respecive control systems, then the inal assembly system (another two production lines or more). within this production line (very basic, too) your control systems are what feeds the arms with information like: part location, part orientation, needed arm offset, arm speeds, joint mainpulation codes, among several dozen other things. the control system does the thinking. not the robot. im not trying to diss you people for thinking that the aforementioned "robots" could exist, im just trying to let you people know what exactly gets done inside a robot, how it functions. the actual functions are protected by interpol, so i cant discuss that here ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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